From ingerman at lclark.edu Sun Jun 1 14:45:41 1997 From: ingerman at lclark.edu (Bret Ingerman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:31 2004 Subject: need your input in setting priorities In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Indicate priority for the following: > 5 Data Warehousing 4 Access & Security 1 Routing 2 Curriculum Design 3 Keeping Network Statistics Others (describe):________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bret Ingerman e-mail: ingerman@lclark.edu Executive Director phone: 503-768-7227 Information Technology fax: 503-768-7228 Lewis & Clark College url: http://www.lclark.edu/~ingerman 0615 S.W. Palatine Hill Road Portland, OR 97219-7899 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _ From rtanner at linfield.edu Mon Jun 2 16:19:27 1997 From: rtanner at linfield.edu (Rob Tanner) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:31 2004 Subject: Northwest Net and gateway routers Message-ID: I got the shock of my life today. I asked Northwest Net to install an access list on the gateway router (which is Northwest Net owned and managed) to DENY packets coming into Linfield that claim to have a source address within our set of registered networks -- this to prevent address spoofing. It's a less than 10 minute job to build the simple 17 line access list. Northwest Net, however, wants $125/hr with a minimum of 4 hours, a total of $500 for less than 10 minutes' work. In the short term, are there any other configuration items I should consider for the router that may not currently be installed? It would be a real nuisance to pay $500 now and then another $500 in September for something I could make them do now within the constraints of the minimum they're going to charge me anyway. Any and all suggestions appreciated. A second approach might be simply to replace their router with one of our own and take over maintenance responsibilities. Is anyone else doing that? Are you satisfied with that arrangement? Is it cost-effective for you, or are you spending a great deal of time dealing with connection issues that you would otherwise avoid if the ISP did the work. Any and all comments, short term and long range appreciated here. Thanks, Rob _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ /\_\_\_\_\ /\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, /\/_/__\/_/ __ /\/_/ /\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_/ /\/_/ /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_/ /\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ sounds profound) Rob Tanner Manager of Systems and Communications Linfield College, McMinnville OR (503) 434-2558 From krupicka at pacificu.edu Wed Jun 11 15:32:05 1997 From: krupicka at pacificu.edu (Ted Krupicka) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:31 2004 Subject: Northwest Net and gateway routers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That must be a new policy. They installed the IP spoofing filter for me a year ago for free. I'm not aware of any other configuration changes you might need, but I don't believe they will do a lot of customization on their routers for you. -Ted Krupicka __________________________________________________________________________ University Information Services Network and UNIX Administrator Pacific University Phone: (503) 359-2927 2043 College Way Box 674 Fax: (503) 359-2959 Forest Grove, OR 97116 Internet: krupicka@pacificu.edu __________________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, Rob Tanner wrote: > > I got the shock of my life today. I asked Northwest Net to install an > access list on the gateway router (which is Northwest Net owned and > managed) to DENY packets coming into Linfield that claim to have a source > address within our set of registered networks -- this to prevent address > spoofing. It's a less than 10 minute job to build the simple 17 line > access list. Northwest Net, however, wants $125/hr with a minimum of 4 > hours, a total of $500 for less than 10 minutes' work. > > In the short term, are there any other configuration items I should > consider for the router that may not currently be installed? It would be > a real nuisance to pay $500 now and then another $500 in September for > something I could make them do now within the constraints of the minimum > they're going to charge me anyway. Any and all suggestions appreciated. > > A second approach might be simply to replace their router with one of our > own and take over maintenance responsibilities. Is anyone else doing > that? Are you satisfied with that arrangement? Is it cost-effective for > you, or are you spending a great deal of time dealing with connection > issues that you would otherwise avoid if the ISP did the work. Any and > all comments, short term and long range appreciated here. > > Thanks, > Rob > > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > /\_\_\_\_\ /\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ > /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, > /\/_/__\/_/ __ /\/_/ /\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR > /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_/ /\/_/ > /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_/ /\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin > \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ sounds profound) > > Rob Tanner > Manager of Systems and Communications > Linfield College, McMinnville OR > (503) 434-2558 > > > From rtanner at linfield.edu Mon Jun 16 09:48:54 1997 From: rtanner at linfield.edu (Rob Tanner) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:31 2004 Subject: Northwest Net and gateway routers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, Ted Krupicka wrote: > > That must be a new policy. They installed the IP spoofing filter for me a > year ago for free. I'm not aware of any other configuration changes you > might need, but I don't believe they will do a lot of customization on > their routers for you. > Ted, Turns out that once I finally got in touch with someone who knew something about that of which he/she was talking about (now, ain't that a convoluted phrase?), it turns out that IP spoofing filters are a standard configuration they add to all their gateway routers. They were also willing to give me the snmp read community string so I can see what's going on on the router as well. -- Rob _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ /\_\_\_\_\ /\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, /\/_/__\/_/ __ /\/_/ /\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_/ /\/_/ /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_/ /\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ sounds profound) Rob Tanner Manager of Systems and Communications Linfield College, McMinnville OR (503) 434-2558 From ingerman at lclark.edu Sun Jun 22 17:06:21 1997 From: ingerman at lclark.edu (Bret Ingerman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:31 2004 Subject: Position Available: Manager, Instructional Media Services Message-ID: The following position is available at Lewis & Clark College. If you have questions about the position, please contact me via one of the methods listed in my signature at the end of this message. --Bret ===================================== Manager, Instructional Media Services Lewis & Clark College Full-time position to actively promote, foster, and support the successful use of appropriate multimedia, presentation, classroom and audio-visual technologies for teaching, learning, classroom and research purposes and administrative operations by students, faculty and administrative staff. This position is responsible for supervising the staff and operations of a multimedia resource lab, analog and digital video editing suites, television studio, campus video and satellite system and other resources. This position also supervises the operations of our Media Services department which provides technology support (audio, visual and computing) for classrooms as well as other academic and non-academic needs. Requires a bachelors degree, preferably in communications or education, or an equivalent combination of education and experience, plus a minimum of two years experience supporting end-users in the use of multimedia and analog and digital technologies with specific knowledge of college/university computing needs preferred. Graduate degree preferred. Experience as a manager or team-leader in a computing organization is preferred. Salary is commensurate with experience. Lewis & Clark offers an excellent benefit package including tuition remission, an outstanding retirement plan and 24 days vacation per year. To apply, submit a cover letter, resume, and the names, addresses, and telephone numbers of three references to: Office of Human Resources Lewis & Clark College 0615 SW Palatine Hill Road Portland OR 97219 phone: 503-768-7835 fax: 503-768-7823 Application materials will be accepted until the position is filled but for certain consideration please apply before June 27. EOE. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bret Ingerman e-mail: ingerman@lclark.edu Executive Director phone: 503-768-7227 Information Technology fax: 503-768-7228 Lewis & Clark College url: http://www.lclark.edu/~ingerman 0615 S.W. Palatine Hill Road Portland, OR 97219-7899 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  From aldrich at ups.edu Tue Jun 24 11:01:32 1997 From: aldrich at ups.edu (Tom Aldrich) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:31 2004 Subject: Novell Survey Message-ID: The final results have rolled in on the Novell survey; it's clear most folks are focused more on NT. The attached file was created in Microsoft Mac Word 6.0 but saved as WinWord 2.0. If this is not readable, send me a note and I'll send in alternate format such as RTF or whatever you'd like. As with NT, I only included information on colleges that responded. Tom -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Novell.doc Type: application/mac-binhex40 Size: 8415 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.nw-heat.org/pipermail/nw-heat/attachments/19970624/721b26e6/Novell.bin From aldrich at ups.edu Mon Jun 30 13:59:13 1997 From: aldrich at ups.edu (Tom Aldrich) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:31 2004 Subject: NT/Novell followup Message-ID: All, Hope the NT and Novell surveys have been useful. Seems like an NT break-out session might make sense sometime in the future, though I know we've been avoiding vendor-specific sessions. What do folks think about this? This *could* be quite useful if we're meeting at an NT-heavy school. I also gathered from the NT results that even the schools that weren't using it were going to take a serious look at it. Thoughts? Tom From ingerman at lclark.edu Mon Jun 30 13:10:04 1997 From: ingerman at lclark.edu (Bret Ingerman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:31 2004 Subject: NT/Novell followup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tom: Sounds like a good meeting idea. Vendor specific is OK with me as long as there are a number of schools working with a particualr vendor. --Bret At 1:01 PM -0700 6/30/97, Tom Aldrich wrote: >All, > >Hope the NT and Novell surveys have been useful. Seems like an NT >break-out session might make sense sometime in the future, though I know >we've been avoiding vendor-specific sessions. What do folks think about >this? > >This *could* be quite useful if we're meeting at an NT-heavy school. I >also gathered from the NT results that even the schools that weren't using >it were going to take a serious look at it. > >Thoughts? > >Tom From ingerman at lclark.edu Sun Jun 1 14:45:41 1997 From: ingerman at lclark.edu (Bret Ingerman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:19 2006 Subject: need your input in setting priorities In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Indicate priority for the following: > 5 Data Warehousing 4 Access & Security 1 Routing 2 Curriculum Design 3 Keeping Network Statistics Others (describe):________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bret Ingerman e-mail: ingerman@lclark.edu Executive Director phone: 503-768-7227 Information Technology fax: 503-768-7228 Lewis & Clark College url: http://www.lclark.edu/~ingerman 0615 S.W. Palatine Hill Road Portland, OR 97219-7899 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _ From rtanner at linfield.edu Mon Jun 2 16:19:27 1997 From: rtanner at linfield.edu (Rob Tanner) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:19 2006 Subject: Northwest Net and gateway routers Message-ID: I got the shock of my life today. I asked Northwest Net to install an access list on the gateway router (which is Northwest Net owned and managed) to DENY packets coming into Linfield that claim to have a source address within our set of registered networks -- this to prevent address spoofing. It's a less than 10 minute job to build the simple 17 line access list. Northwest Net, however, wants $125/hr with a minimum of 4 hours, a total of $500 for less than 10 minutes' work. In the short term, are there any other configuration items I should consider for the router that may not currently be installed? It would be a real nuisance to pay $500 now and then another $500 in September for something I could make them do now within the constraints of the minimum they're going to charge me anyway. Any and all suggestions appreciated. A second approach might be simply to replace their router with one of our own and take over maintenance responsibilities. Is anyone else doing that? Are you satisfied with that arrangement? Is it cost-effective for you, or are you spending a great deal of time dealing with connection issues that you would otherwise avoid if the ISP did the work. Any and all comments, short term and long range appreciated here. Thanks, Rob _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ /\_\_\_\_\ /\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, /\/_/__\/_/ __ /\/_/ /\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_/ /\/_/ /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_/ /\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ sounds profound) Rob Tanner Manager of Systems and Communications Linfield College, McMinnville OR (503) 434-2558 From krupicka at pacificu.edu Wed Jun 11 15:32:05 1997 From: krupicka at pacificu.edu (Ted Krupicka) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:19 2006 Subject: Northwest Net and gateway routers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That must be a new policy. They installed the IP spoofing filter for me a year ago for free. I'm not aware of any other configuration changes you might need, but I don't believe they will do a lot of customization on their routers for you. -Ted Krupicka __________________________________________________________________________ University Information Services Network and UNIX Administrator Pacific University Phone: (503) 359-2927 2043 College Way Box 674 Fax: (503) 359-2959 Forest Grove, OR 97116 Internet: krupicka@pacificu.edu __________________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, Rob Tanner wrote: > > I got the shock of my life today. I asked Northwest Net to install an > access list on the gateway router (which is Northwest Net owned and > managed) to DENY packets coming into Linfield that claim to have a source > address within our set of registered networks -- this to prevent address > spoofing. It's a less than 10 minute job to build the simple 17 line > access list. Northwest Net, however, wants $125/hr with a minimum of 4 > hours, a total of $500 for less than 10 minutes' work. > > In the short term, are there any other configuration items I should > consider for the router that may not currently be installed? It would be > a real nuisance to pay $500 now and then another $500 in September for > something I could make them do now within the constraints of the minimum > they're going to charge me anyway. Any and all suggestions appreciated. > > A second approach might be simply to replace their router with one of our > own and take over maintenance responsibilities. Is anyone else doing > that? Are you satisfied with that arrangement? Is it cost-effective for > you, or are you spending a great deal of time dealing with connection > issues that you would otherwise avoid if the ISP did the work. Any and > all comments, short term and long range appreciated here. > > Thanks, > Rob > > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > /\_\_\_\_\ /\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ > /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, > /\/_/__\/_/ __ /\/_/ /\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR > /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_/ /\/_/ > /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_/ /\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin > \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ sounds profound) > > Rob Tanner > Manager of Systems and Communications > Linfield College, McMinnville OR > (503) 434-2558 > > > From rtanner at linfield.edu Mon Jun 16 09:48:54 1997 From: rtanner at linfield.edu (Rob Tanner) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:19 2006 Subject: Northwest Net and gateway routers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, Ted Krupicka wrote: > > That must be a new policy. They installed the IP spoofing filter for me a > year ago for free. I'm not aware of any other configuration changes you > might need, but I don't believe they will do a lot of customization on > their routers for you. > Ted, Turns out that once I finally got in touch with someone who knew something about that of which he/she was talking about (now, ain't that a convoluted phrase?), it turns out that IP spoofing filters are a standard configuration they add to all their gateway routers. They were also willing to give me the snmp read community string so I can see what's going on on the router as well. -- Rob _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ /\_\_\_\_\ /\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, /\/_/__\/_/ __ /\/_/ /\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_/ /\/_/ /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_/ /\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ sounds profound) Rob Tanner Manager of Systems and Communications Linfield College, McMinnville OR (503) 434-2558 From ingerman at lclark.edu Sun Jun 22 17:06:21 1997 From: ingerman at lclark.edu (Bret Ingerman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:19 2006 Subject: Position Available: Manager, Instructional Media Services Message-ID: The following position is available at Lewis & Clark College. If you have questions about the position, please contact me via one of the methods listed in my signature at the end of this message. --Bret ===================================== Manager, Instructional Media Services Lewis & Clark College Full-time position to actively promote, foster, and support the successful use of appropriate multimedia, presentation, classroom and audio-visual technologies for teaching, learning, classroom and research purposes and administrative operations by students, faculty and administrative staff. This position is responsible for supervising the staff and operations of a multimedia resource lab, analog and digital video editing suites, television studio, campus video and satellite system and other resources. This position also supervises the operations of our Media Services department which provides technology support (audio, visual and computing) for classrooms as well as other academic and non-academic needs. Requires a bachelors degree, preferably in communications or education, or an equivalent combination of education and experience, plus a minimum of two years experience supporting end-users in the use of multimedia and analog and digital technologies with specific knowledge of college/university computing needs preferred. Graduate degree preferred. Experience as a manager or team-leader in a computing organization is preferred. Salary is commensurate with experience. Lewis & Clark offers an excellent benefit package including tuition remission, an outstanding retirement plan and 24 days vacation per year. To apply, submit a cover letter, resume, and the names, addresses, and telephone numbers of three references to: Office of Human Resources Lewis & Clark College 0615 SW Palatine Hill Road Portland OR 97219 phone: 503-768-7835 fax: 503-768-7823 Application materials will be accepted until the position is filled but for certain consideration please apply before June 27. EOE. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bret Ingerman e-mail: ingerman@lclark.edu Executive Director phone: 503-768-7227 Information Technology fax: 503-768-7228 Lewis & Clark College url: http://www.lclark.edu/~ingerman 0615 S.W. Palatine Hill Road Portland, OR 97219-7899 USA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  From aldrich at ups.edu Tue Jun 24 11:01:32 1997 From: aldrich at ups.edu (Tom Aldrich) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:19 2006 Subject: Novell Survey Message-ID: The final results have rolled in on the Novell survey; it's clear most folks are focused more on NT. The attached file was created in Microsoft Mac Word 6.0 but saved as WinWord 2.0. If this is not readable, send me a note and I'll send in alternate format such as RTF or whatever you'd like. As with NT, I only included information on colleges that responded. Tom -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Novell.doc Type: application/mac-binhex40 Size: 8415 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.nw-heat.org/pipermail/nw-heat/attachments/19970624/721b26e6/Novell.hqx From aldrich at ups.edu Mon Jun 30 13:59:13 1997 From: aldrich at ups.edu (Tom Aldrich) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:19 2006 Subject: NT/Novell followup Message-ID: All, Hope the NT and Novell surveys have been useful. Seems like an NT break-out session might make sense sometime in the future, though I know we've been avoiding vendor-specific sessions. What do folks think about this? This *could* be quite useful if we're meeting at an NT-heavy school. I also gathered from the NT results that even the schools that weren't using it were going to take a serious look at it. Thoughts? Tom From ingerman at lclark.edu Mon Jun 30 13:10:04 1997 From: ingerman at lclark.edu (Bret Ingerman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:19 2006 Subject: NT/Novell followup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tom: Sounds like a good meeting idea. Vendor specific is OK with me as long as there are a number of schools working with a particualr vendor. --Bret At 1:01 PM -0700 6/30/97, Tom Aldrich wrote: >All, > >Hope the NT and Novell surveys have been useful. Seems like an NT >break-out session might make sense sometime in the future, though I know >we've been avoiding vendor-specific sessions. What do folks think about >this? > >This *could* be quite useful if we're meeting at an NT-heavy school. I >also gathered from the NT results that even the schools that weren't using >it were going to take a serious look at it. > >Thoughts? > >Tom