From mmyers at willamette.edu Fri May 1 09:34:50 1998 From: mmyers at willamette.edu (Mike Myers) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Web page traffic Message-ID: Well, after an underwhelming response of three sites (UPS, Clark Collge and TESC) here's the summary: WU 45K hits/day UPS 50K hits/day TESC 25K hits/day Clark College 2.5K PAGES/day If anyone wants to add some more info I'll post an update. I'm sure Keiko will add this to the web page :) - Mike From mmyers at willamette.edu Fri May 1 09:35:57 1998 From: mmyers at willamette.edu (Mike Myers) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Missed one... Message-ID: How could I leave Whitman off the list? Freudian slip I'm sure... They at about 40K hits/day. - Mike From krupicka at pacificu.edu Mon May 4 13:37:45 1998 From: krupicka at pacificu.edu (Ted Krupicka) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Cisco Y2K info Message-ID: Just thought I'd pass on some Year 2000 info since I was doing the research. You can look at their web page but you may need a CCO password. http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/752/2000/cptbl_ov.htm The only supported IOS for the standard routers is 11.0 and greater and here are a few of the products that will not be tested because they are "end of life": Routers: AGS/AGS+ CGS 750 1100 2000 3000 3202 Comm Server: CS-500 Looks like I need to start looing for a replacement for my 3000! -Ted Krupicka ********************************************************************** University Information Services Network and UNIX Administrator Pacific University E-Mail krupicka@pacificu.edu 2043 College Way Phone (503) 359-2927 Forest Grove, OR 97116 Fax (503) 359-2959 ********* *************** From aldrich at ups.edu Tue May 5 09:56:22 1998 From: aldrich at ups.edu (Tom Aldrich) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: charging students Message-ID: All, Based on a recent short survey sent out to the board list, the following table outlines the status of charging students for computer services for those schools that responded. Schoool Charge Amount Charge for Annual Fee Raised Printing Evergreen no - no Pacific $100/year $165,000 no WSU Pullman $60/semester ? ? WSU Vancouver no - no Saint Martin's not yet - $.03/page Linfield $110/year $203,500 no Reed no ? $.10/page PLU no - no (* PLU uses 3-hole-punched) Whitman no - no Willamette no - no LC no - no (* LC will start a program in September that will provide a credit of pages, then charge a fee after the credit has been used. The fee has not yet been determined). UPS no - no (* UPS will start a program in September that likely will provide a credit of pages, then charge a fee after the credit has been used. The amount of credit and the fee have not yet been determined.) If more data trickles in, I'll send out an update. Tom From mmorandi at willamette.edu Tue May 5 09:56:13 1998 From: mmorandi at willamette.edu (Marti Morandi) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Help Desk Position Opening at Willamette University Message-ID: Willamette University is located in the beautiful Willamette Valley in Salem, Oregon. WITS (Willamette Integrated Technology Services) is a team-oriented organization comprised of Administrative Computing, Academic Computing, Media Services, Telecommunications and Technical Services. You can check the Willamette Web site at http://www.willamette.edu and WITS in particular ...add wits/. To see the organizational chart click on "About WITS". This position pays approximately 32K. NOTIFICATION OF PROFESSIONAL POSITION OPENING THE FOLLOWING POSITION IS AVAILABLE TO QUALIFIED APPLICANTS USER SERVICES CONSULTANT Willamette Integrated Technology Services announces an opening for User Services Consultant to provide support and assistance to computer/network users on campus and producing user documentation. Willamette University is a small, private, coeducation university with a College of Liberal Arts and graduate schools in law, management, and teaching. To apply, submit a letter of application, resume, the names and telephone numbers of three references, and an Administrative/Professional Staff Employment Application to Carol Black, Director of Human Resources, Willamette University, 900 State St., Salem, OR 97301. The screening process will begin May 15, 1998 and continue until filled. Following is a detailed position description of the responsibilities and qualifications for this position: DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES: The duties and responsibilities of the User Services Consultant include, but are not limited to, the following functions: 1. Manages the Help Desk for students, faculty, and staff on the use of computer hardware, software, and network. 2. Serves as the initial point of contact for faculty, staff and students seeking assistance with technology. 3. Assists faculty and staff in the use and application of microcomputer software such as word processors and spreadsheets. 4. Maintains system documentation. 5. Prepares and disseminates information (e.g. documentation, handouts, newsletter) regarding the WITS services. 6. Serves as a resource for identifying and solving computer related hardware and software problems. 7. Researches and recommends software and equipment solutions. 8. Participates in planning, coordinating, designing, scheduling, and conducting staff development seminars and institutional development projects. 9. Oversees operation of the Smullin general access computer lab and residence hall clusters; trains student lab assistants; supervises student lab managers. 10. Performs other essential duties and tasks as assigned. QUALIFICATION STANDARDS: 1. Any combination of education, training or experience that provides the knowledge, skills and abilities required to perform the essential function of the position. A Bachelor's degree or two-year college degree plus three years experience in relevant field. 2. A minimum of two years experience in microcomputer user support in a networked computing environment. 3. Demonstrated knowledge and experience in: a. operation of microcomputer equipment and other peripheral devices; b. installation of microcomputer applications in a networked environment; c. use of various application software; d. use of the Internet; e. consulting users on various software, hardware, and network problems; f. consulting with users on and diagnosing problems in database applications. 4. Strong service orientation. 5. Strong interpersonal and communication skills. 6. A proven ability to make technical issues understandable and an ability to match technical opportunities to University goals. 7. Preferred skills include experience in user services in higher education, preparation of documentation and experience beyond the minimum requirement. 8. Successful clearance of a criminal conviction record check. 9. Ability to establish and maintain cooperative and harmonious working relationships with a variety of campus constituencies. WILLAMETTE UNIVERSITY IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER AND EMBRACES EXCELLENCE THROUGH DIVERSITY POSTED: 4/28/98 Please contact me directly for further information. Thanks, Marti Marti Morandi, Director Operations and Production Willamette Integrated Technology Services Willamette University 900 State Street Salem OR 97301 Office: (503)370-6650 FAX: (503)375-5456 mmorandi@willamette.edu From mmorandi at willamette.edu Tue May 5 15:19:50 1998 From: mmorandi at willamette.edu (Marti Morandi) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Salary correction to previously posted position Message-ID: Correction to the Help Desk position previously posted for Willamette...should have read approximate salary 30K NOT 32K. Sorry, Marti Marti Morandi, Director Production and Operations Willamette Integrated Technology Services Willamette University Salem, OR 97301 (503)370-6650/mmorandi@willamette.edu From weisman at pacificu.edu Wed May 6 09:50:53 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: charging students In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Tom. One question that sort of sneaks aroundd the fee issue. Do you have any other technology charges to students. When I was researching this couple of years ago, at least one school charged for network hook-ups, another had some other fees, others charged for certain software. Of course this may have changed as time has passed. Still, I would caution that direct technology fees are one mode for charging, but non-aggregated, or indirect fees are another method. -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Tue, 5 May 1998, Tom Aldrich wrote: > All, > > Based on a recent short survey sent out to the board list, the following > table outlines the status of charging students for computer services for > those schools that responded. > > Schoool Charge Amount Charge for > Annual Fee Raised Printing > > Evergreen no - no > Pacific $100/year $165,000 no > WSU Pullman $60/semester ? ? > WSU Vancouver no - no > Saint Martin's not yet - $.03/page > Linfield $110/year $203,500 no > Reed no ? $.10/page > PLU no - no > (* PLU uses 3-hole-punched) > Whitman no - no > Willamette no - no > LC no - no > (* LC will start a program in September that will provide a > credit of pages, then charge a fee after the credit has been used. > The fee has not yet been determined). > UPS no - no > (* UPS will start a program in September that likely will provide a > credit of pages, then charge a fee after the credit has been used. > The amount of credit and the fee have not yet been determined.) > > If more data trickles in, I'll send out an update. > > Tom > > > From weisman at pacificu.edu Wed May 6 09:54:12 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: And while I'm at it... Message-ID: Simple questions. If you use Banner or Datatel, how many dedicated full-time staff support the product? And if FTE is different, what is that number? For example, Pacific has 5 solely for this. 1 Programmer, 1 Sys Admin., 1 Tech. Services, 1 Trainer/Consultant, 1 Benefactor Mgr. Then there are distributed responsibilities for querying, data entry, etc., around the school. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From houstobc at whitman.edu Wed May 6 10:09:20 1998 From: houstobc at whitman.edu (Ben Cody Houston) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Web-Based Course Toold Message-ID: Hi everyone! There was some talk at the last NW-HEAT meeting about on-line course tools, and we have some professors here that are very interested in using it. However, they would like to see some examples of it in use before they reached a final decision. Can anyone out there give us perhaps a guest account in a class that has a good bit of material in it so they could see what a live, fleshed-out web class looks like? We're most interested in TopClass and WebCT right now, but if you can get really good stuff done with other software, I'm sure we'd like to see it. Other questions (these related mostly to WebCT...) 1. Will it run on Linux? 2. How stable is the NT beta? 3. How much CPU overhead does it take (do you need a beefy machine for it or will a low-end Pentium linux box work okay) 4. In the testing part of it, can it pull questions out of a pool at random to give to students? If a student gets a question wrong, can the software pull another related question instead of moving on to another topic? That's about it... any help you could give me (us) would be great... thanks! -ben From mmorandi at willamette.edu Wed May 6 11:01:38 1998 From: mmorandi at willamette.edu (Marti Morandi) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: And while I'm at it... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'd say 3 at WU. Two programmers and Director of Admin Technologies. Marti Marti Morandi, Director Production and Operations Willamette Integrated Technology Services Willamette University Salem, OR 97301 (503)370-6650/mmorandi@willamette.edu On Wed, 6 May 1998, Jeb Weisman wrote: > Simple questions. If you use Banner or Datatel, how many dedicated > full-time staff support the product? And if FTE is different, what is that > number? > > For example, Pacific has 5 solely for this. > > 1 Programmer, 1 Sys Admin., 1 Tech. Services, 1 Trainer/Consultant, 1 > Benefactor Mgr. > > > Then there are distributed responsibilities for querying, data entry, > etc., around the school. > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | > | Services 97116 | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > From PietrasP at evergreen.edu Wed May 6 13:31:37 1998 From: PietrasP at evergreen.edu (Pietras, Pete) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: And while I'm at it... Message-ID: It would be interesting to know how many & which modules are used. Sounds like the Pacific folks either have HR or foundation stuff (benefactors mgr???). But do they have student or finance as well? or all? And if they only have one module, how many staff ae used to support the other parts of the admin system? > ---------- > From: Jeb Weisman > Reply To: nw-heat@willamette.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 1998 10:50 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: And while I'm at it... > > Simple questions. If you use Banner or Datatel, how many dedicated > full-time staff support the product? And if FTE is different, what is > that > number? > > For example, Pacific has 5 solely for this. > > 1 Programmer, 1 Sys Admin., 1 Tech. Services, 1 Trainer/Consultant, 1 > Benefactor Mgr. > > > Then there are distributed responsibilities for querying, data entry, > etc., around the school. > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > --+ > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University > weisman@pacificu.edu | > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) > | > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) > | > | Services 97116 > | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > --+ > From weisman at pacificu.edu Wed May 6 17:52:04 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: And while I'm at it... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For the record, you name it, we got it. We own but don't currently use HR, we own but don't currently use facilities, and we own, but don't currently use the events modules. We do use student, core, registrar, housing, admissions, financial aid, A/R, etc., etc., etc. But for now, I'm just looking for dedicated staff sizes. -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Wed, 6 May 1998, Pietras, Pete wrote: > It would be interesting to know how many & which modules are used. > Sounds like the Pacific folks either have HR or foundation stuff > (benefactors mgr???). But do they have student or finance as well? or > all? And if they only have one module, how many staff ae used to > support the other parts of the admin system? > > > > ---------- > > From: Jeb Weisman > > Reply To: nw-heat@willamette.org > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 1998 10:50 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: And while I'm at it... > > > > Simple questions. If you use Banner or Datatel, how many dedicated > > full-time staff support the product? And if FTE is different, what is > > that > > number? > > > > For example, Pacific has 5 solely for this. > > > > 1 Programmer, 1 Sys Admin., 1 Tech. Services, 1 Trainer/Consultant, 1 > > Benefactor Mgr. > > > > > > Then there are distributed responsibilities for querying, data entry, > > etc., around the school. > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --+ > > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University > > weisman@pacificu.edu | > > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) > > | > > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) > > | > > | Services 97116 > > | > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --+ > > > From irvw at linfield.edu Thu May 7 08:10:04 1998 From: irvw at linfield.edu (Irv Wiswall) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: And while I'm at it... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm getting better job titles, but for now - we have 5 people doing colleague, a director, programmer/analyst, programmer, benefactor administrator and an operator. -Irv On Wed, 6 May 1998 18:26:28 -0700 Jeb Weisman wrote: > For the record, you name it, we got it. We own but don't currently use > HR, we own but don't currently use facilities, and we own, but don't > currently use the events modules. We do use student, core, registrar, > housing, admissions, financial aid, A/R, etc., etc., etc. > > > But for now, I'm just looking for dedicated staff sizes. > > -Jeb > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | > | Services 97116 | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > On Wed, 6 May 1998, Pietras, Pete wrote: > > > It would be interesting to know how many & which modules are used. > > Sounds like the Pacific folks either have HR or foundation stuff > > (benefactors mgr???). But do they have student or finance as well? or > > all? And if they only have one module, how many staff ae used to > > support the other parts of the admin system? > > > > > > > ---------- > > > From: Jeb Weisman > > > Reply To: nw-heat@willamette.org > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 1998 10:50 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > > Subject: And while I'm at it... > > > > > > Simple questions. If you use Banner or Datatel, how many dedicated > > > full-time staff support the product? And if FTE is different, what is > > > that > > > number? > > > > > > For example, Pacific has 5 solely for this. > > > > > > 1 Programmer, 1 Sys Admin., 1 Tech. Services, 1 Trainer/Consultant, 1 > > > Benefactor Mgr. > > > > > > > > > Then there are distributed responsibilities for querying, data entry, > > > etc., around the school. > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --+ > > > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University > > > weisman@pacificu.edu | > > > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) > > > | > > > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) > > > | > > > | Services 97116 > > > | > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --+ > > > > > > From Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu Thu May 7 09:32:57 1998 From: Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu (Marianne Colgrove) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: And while I'm at it... Message-ID: <5574099@isis.reed.edu> Reed also has 5 people, though several of them do desktop support in addition to Banner. 1 Director of Administrative Computing 3 Programmer User Support Specialist 1 Operator We are using Banner student, financials and alumni/development. Marianne Colgrove mcolgrove@reed.edu From Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu Thu May 7 09:41:04 1998 From: Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu (Marianne Colgrove) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: duh Message-ID: <5574193@isis.reed.edu> I also forgot to mention we have one database administrator. So, that makes 6 people that do admin computing, but not just Banner. Marinane --- Forwarded Message from Marianne Colgrove --- >Date: 07 May 98 09:32:57 PDT >From: Marianne Colgrove >Reply-To: Marianne.Colgrove@reed.edu >Subject: Re: And while I'm at it... >To: nw-heat@willamette.org Reed also has 5 people, though several of them do desktop support in addition to Banner. 1 Director of Administrative Computing 3 Programmer User Support Specialist 1 Operator We are using Banner student, financials and alumni/development. Marianne Colgrove mcolgrove@reed.edu From worleyme at plu.edu Thu May 7 13:24:55 1998 From: worleyme at plu.edu (Margaret Worley) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Selling computers Message-ID: <35521897.2928E626@plu.edu> We've proposed to our bookstore that they sell name brand (as opposed to generic) PCs. We've suggested Micron (because that's our campus standard for faculty and staff), Gateway or Dell. Questions: Does your bookstore sell PCs? If so, what brand? What kind of success (or lack thereof) have your had with vendor discounts, sales, service, support? Can you provide the name of your bookstore contact? Please respond to me and I'll summarize for the group if there's interest. Thanks Margaret Worley Asst. Director, User Services/Academic Support Computing and Telecommunication Services Pacific Lutheran University From houstobc at whitman.edu Thu May 7 14:44:19 1998 From: houstobc at whitman.edu (Ben Cody Houston) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Front Page Extensions-Evil or Benign? Message-ID: Mike Myers from Willamette has been nice enough to send me some articles about the evils of have MS FrontPage extensions installed on your web server. Some really really scary stuff, and they're recent articles too. Is anyone out there using them? We would be installing them on UNIX, probably apache. Aside from that, are they *really* that useful? What to they do besides linking your web page creator to the web server and masking ftp transfers? (This seems like a bad idea to me anyway, but...) -ben From gshearer at seattleu.edu Thu May 7 14:58:46 1998 From: gshearer at seattleu.edu (George W. Shearer) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Selling computers In-Reply-To: <35521897.2928E626@plu.edu> Message-ID: Seattle University does not sell hardware-only software. Even that does not sell. With everything moving to web service, I am not sure you would want to get into such a competitive business. Why not order online and set up a virtual operation that cuts out most of the overhead. Just a thought. George Shearer Director Instructional Media Services Seattle University (206) 296-5592 gshearer@seattleu.edu On Thu, 7 May 1998, Margaret Worley wrote: > We've proposed to our bookstore that they sell name brand (as opposed to > generic) PCs. We've suggested Micron (because that's our campus > standard for faculty and staff), Gateway or Dell. > > Questions: > > Does your bookstore sell PCs? > > If so, what brand? > > What kind of success (or lack thereof) have your had with vendor > discounts, sales, service, support? > > Can you provide the name of your bookstore contact? > > Please respond to me and I'll summarize for the group if there's > interest. > > Thanks > Margaret Worley > Asst. Director, User Services/Academic Support > Computing and Telecommunication Services > Pacific Lutheran University > From jjmiller at lclark.edu Thu May 7 15:31:14 1998 From: jjmiller at lclark.edu (Jeris Miller) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Front Page Extensions-Evil or Benign? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Ben -- We do not have the front end extensions installed on our UNIX server here at Lewis & Clark, but I recently discovered a reason to do so. If you would like to incorporate Power Point presentations into your Front Page web that contain animated elements such as slide transitions, background music audio files or voice overs on the slide (used in kiosk presentations), or video clips, the front end extensions support the Microsoft's ASF format (Active Movie Streaming Format) which is proprietary. In a nutshell, if you want animation on your web site that requires ASF you need the front end server extensions. Ahhh we live in a Microsoft world .... ;-Jeris Miller ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeris J. Miller Lewis & Clark College Senior Technical Consultant Academic Technologies Internet: jjmiller@lclark.edu Info. Tech. Division Web Address: Voice: (503) 768-7221 http://www.lclark.edu/~infotech Fax: (503)768-7228 "If it works, it's obsolete." Understanding Media, p.12. -- Marshall McLuhan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Thu, 7 May 1998, Ben Cody Houston wrote: > Mike Myers from Willamette has been nice enough to send me some articles about the evils of have MS FrontPage extensions installed on your web server. Some really really scary stuff, and they're recent articles too. Is anyone out there using them? We would be installing them on UNIX, probably apache. > > Aside from that, are they *really* that useful? What to they do besides linking your web page creator to the web server and masking ftp transfers? (This seems like a bad idea to me anyway, but...) > > -ben > > From PietrasP at evergreen.edu Thu May 7 15:52:10 1998 From: PietrasP at evergreen.edu (Pietras, Pete) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Selling computers Message-ID: > Questions: > > Does your bookstore sell PCs? Yes. Macs. > If so, what brand? Macs > What kind of success (or lack thereof) have your had with vendor > discounts, sales, service, support? Has been pretty good over past few years. I believe it is declinging now. ALso didn't seem to be much incetive to do this regarding discounts from Apple. > Can you provide the name of your bookstore contact? Kristy Walker 360-866-6000 > Please respond to me and I'll summarize for the group if there's > interest. > > Thanks > Margaret Worley > Asst. Director, User Services/Academic Support > Computing and Telecommunication Services > Pacific Lutheran University > From Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu Thu May 7 17:14:23 1998 From: Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu (Marianne Colgrove) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Selling computers Message-ID: <5580214@isis.reed.edu> --- You wrote: Does your bookstore sell PCs? > we sell them in Computing & Information Services If so, what brand? > Macs What kind of success (or lack thereof) have your had with vendor discounts, sales, service, support? > Over the years I've been mostly happy with Apple. I think we experienced less of a downturn in sales the last couple of years than many other schools have. I am encouraged by Apple's new approach to the higher education store: there is no longer a minimum committment for schools to be authorized Apple purchasers, and the new CAPs payment actually works out pretty well for us. Marianne mcolgrove@reed.edu From weisman at pacificu.edu Thu May 7 20:25:16 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Selling computers In-Reply-To: <35521897.2928E626@plu.edu> Message-ID: See below +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Thu, 7 May 1998, Margaret Worley wrote: > We've proposed to our bookstore that they sell name brand (as opposed to > generic) PCs. We've suggested Micron (because that's our campus > standard for faculty and staff), Gateway or Dell. > > Questions: > > Does your bookstore sell PCs? >>>>No, we handle that. > > If so, what brand? >>>>Apple and Dell > > What kind of success (or lack thereof) have your had with vendor > discounts, sales, service, support? >>>>> Fairly good with Apple, moderate w/Dell > > Can you provide the name of your bookstore contact? Our department run store contact is Allison batty (battya1@pacificu.edu) > From bnelson at willamette.edu Fri May 8 08:56:34 1998 From: bnelson at willamette.edu (Bill Nelson) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Front Page Extensions-Evil or Benign? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings, We installed all the active server page stuff on IIS v3.0 (on NT 4) but ended up removing them because the added files and complexity didn't seem worth the value added. The extra files needed in each folder confused some of the web authors, etc. BN _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Nelson Tokyo International University of America P O Box 14040 Salem, OR, USA 97309 bnelson@willamette.edu On Thu, 7 May 1998, Ben Cody Houston wrote: > Mike Myers from Willamette has been nice enough to send me some articles about the evils of have MS FrontPage extensions installed on your web server. Some really really scary stuff, and they're recent articles too. Is anyone out there using them? We would be installing them on UNIX, probably apache. > > Aside from that, are they *really* that useful? What to they do besides linking your web page creator to the web server and masking ftp transfers? (This seems like a bad idea to me anyway, but...) > > -ben > > From rtanner at linfield.edu Fri May 8 09:59:32 1998 From: rtanner at linfield.edu (Rob Tanner) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: WEB Search engines: recommendations please Message-ID: Here at Linfield we have a home grown search engine for our WEB space that is hopelessly inadequate. It was written quite a while back when our space was both smaller and flatter. I have looked at what it would take to fix the inadequacies, and decided I have too many other priorities. I have looked briefly at Glimse, and what I see so far I like. My question is: what kinds of search engines are you using for your WEB pages. I would appreciate any recommendations or cautions you might have. Thanks. -- Rob _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ /\_\_\_\_\ /\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, /\/_/__\/_/ __ /\/_/ /\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_/ /\/_/ /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_/ /\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ appears profound) Rob Tanner Manager of Systems and Communications Linfield College, McMinnville OR (503) 434-2558 From Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu Fri May 8 10:52:07 1998 From: Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu (Marianne Colgrove) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Tangent Message-ID: <5585586@isis.reed.edu> I just had an interesting meeting with our Tangent representative. They sell Windows systems to government and higher education. Does anyone have any experience, good or bad, with Tangent? Thanks, Marianne mcolgrove@reed.edu From mmyers at willamette.edu Fri May 8 11:01:55 1998 From: mmyers at willamette.edu (Mike Myers) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: WEB Search engines: recommendations please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We use the free Excite for Web Servers (EWS) search engine (http://www.excite.com/navigate/ews11_release.html). They provide virtually no support but as far as I can tell it doesn't really need it. They did fix some security flaw when it was brought to their attention and were proactive about contacting sites that use it and letting them know. We're currently running it under Linux. It's not fool-proof and the error messages can take a while to figure out (or more correctly it can take awhile to figure out where the error happened), but the searching uses something similar to the word matching on the regular excite search engine. It takes about 10% of your collection size for an index (that's with "good sumaries" turned on). We used to run it on our old web server (a sun 4 under SunOS) at about 2-3 seconds per search CPU time -- on our new PPro 200 it's so quick you don't notice any real delay. It's available for lots of platforms: Solaris v.2.x, SGI Irix v6.x, BSDI v2.x, HP-UX v10.x, SunOS, NT/Intel v4.x, NT/Alpha v4.x, Solaris x86, Linux I'm happy to share our config with anyone having problems setting it up. You can see ours are www.willamette.edu/search.html - Mike On Fri, 8 May 1998, Rob Tanner wrote: > Here at Linfield we have a home grown search engine for our WEB space that > is hopelessly inadequate. It was written quite a while back when our > space was both smaller and flatter. I have looked at what it would take > to fix the inadequacies, and decided I have too many other priorities. > > I have looked briefly at Glimse, and what I see so far I like. My > question is: what kinds of search engines are you using for your WEB > pages. I would appreciate any recommendations or cautions you might have. > > Thanks. > > -- Rob > > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > /\_\_\_\_\ /\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ > /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, > /\/_/__\/_/ __ /\/_/ /\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR > /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_/ /\/_/ > /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_/ /\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin > \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ appears profound) > > Rob Tanner > Manager of Systems and Communications > Linfield College, McMinnville OR > (503) 434-2558 > > From weisman at pacificu.edu Fri May 8 12:46:31 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Tangent In-Reply-To: <5585586@isis.reed.edu> Message-ID: I just met with them yesterday. I've asked for references, especially in terms of service. As we recommend the same systems the University uses to our students for their own purchases, this makes a difference. It's not clear tangent has the tech support horse power to support individual end-users on hat scale. What's your sense? -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Fri, 8 May 1998, Marianne Colgrove wrote: > I just had an interesting meeting with our Tangent representative. They sell > Windows systems to government and higher education. Does anyone have any > experience, good or bad, with Tangent? > > Thanks, > Marianne > mcolgrove@reed.edu > From aldrich at ups.edu Fri May 8 14:09:17 1998 From: aldrich at ups.edu (Tom Aldrich) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: And while I'm at it... Message-ID: Jeb, Impressive - up here it's only sucked up two programmers and two folks from the user's area so far, and has not (yet) taken over the service or network teams. Tom At 10:50 AM 5/6/98, Jeb Weisman wrote: >Simple questions. If you use Banner or Datatel, how many dedicated >full-time staff support the product? And if FTE is different, what is that >number? > >For example, Pacific has 5 solely for this. > >1 Programmer, 1 Sys Admin., 1 Tech. Services, 1 Trainer/Consultant, 1 >Benefactor Mgr. > > >Then there are distributed responsibilities for querying, data entry, >etc., around the school. > >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | >| Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | >| University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | >| Services 97116 | >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu Fri May 8 13:52:38 1998 From: Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu (Marianne Colgrove) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Tangent Message-ID: <5587987@isis.reed.edu> I'm trying to figure that out too. I have a list of references but haven't talked to them yet. Most are government and K12. I think they told me they've got two technician's for the Portland area for hardware service, but I'm not clear on other support. I like their rap - education & government only, lots of organizational flexibility, national presence. But I wonder about what we don't know... Marianne --- You wrote: I just met with them yesterday. I've asked for references, especially in terms of service. As we recommend the same systems the University uses to our students for their own purchases, this makes a difference. It's not clear tangent has the tech support horse power to support individual end-users on hat scale. What's your sense? -Jeb --- end of quote --- From mmyers at willamette.edu Fri May 8 14:55:07 1998 From: mmyers at willamette.edu (Mike Myers) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Tangent In-Reply-To: <5585586@isis.reed.edu> Message-ID: We have a room with 6 of them in it. They have been fairly trouble free computers -- we use them to do training on and provide them as a resource for faculty when they're not in use. Besides a screw up on the keyboards when we ordered I don't think we've had cause to talk to Tangent since we bought them. I personally put a SCSI scanner, CD-ROM and CD-ROM writer into one with little hassle. The cases are fairly spacious and easy to open. Robert Minato here works with them more than I so might add some comments. - Mike On Fri, 8 May 1998, Marianne Colgrove wrote: > I just had an interesting meeting with our Tangent representative. They sell > Windows systems to government and higher education. Does anyone have any > experience, good or bad, with Tangent? > > Thanks, > Marianne > mcolgrove@reed.edu > From rminato at willamette.edu Fri May 8 15:19:17 1998 From: rminato at willamette.edu (Robert Minato) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Tangent In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I recall waiting longer than might be expected for them to show up, but no complaints other than that. We bought these after taking a look at Micron, Dell, and Tangent demo units. As Mike said, we haven't had occasion to find out about service/support; nothing has gone wrong with any of them yet. But, they don't get the workout they'd get in a general access lab. robert On Fri, 8 May 1998, Mike Myers wrote: > We have a room with 6 of them in it. They have been fairly trouble free > computers -- we use them to do training on and provide them as a resource > for faculty when they're not in use. Besides a screw up on the keyboards > when we ordered I don't think we've had cause to talk to Tangent since we > bought them. I personally put a SCSI scanner, CD-ROM and CD-ROM writer > into one with little hassle. The cases are fairly spacious and easy to > open. > > Robert Minato here works with them more than I so might add some comments. > > - Mike > > On Fri, 8 May 1998, Marianne Colgrove wrote: > > > I just had an interesting meeting with our Tangent representative. They sell > > Windows systems to government and higher education. Does anyone have any > > experience, good or bad, with Tangent? > > > > Thanks, > > Marianne > > mcolgrove@reed.edu > > > > From ingerman at lclark.edu Sat May 9 14:28:33 1998 From: ingerman at lclark.edu (Bret Ingerman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: And while I'm at it... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We use Datatel. Our staffing is: 1 manager of Information Systems 1 operations mananger 1 programmer 1 programmer/analyst 1 operational analyst Some of these people also do non-colleague stuff. --Bret At 10:50 AM -0700 5/6/98, Jeb Weisman wrote: >Simple questions. If you use Banner or Datatel, how many dedicated >full-time staff support the product? And if FTE is different, what is that >number? > >For example, Pacific has 5 solely for this. > >1 Programmer, 1 Sys Admin., 1 Tech. Services, 1 Trainer/Consultant, 1 >Benefactor Mgr. > > >Then there are distributed responsibilities for querying, data entry, >etc., around the school. > >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | >| Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | >| University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | >| Services 97116 | >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ingerman at lclark.edu Sat May 9 14:42:13 1998 From: ingerman at lclark.edu (Bret Ingerman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Selling computers In-Reply-To: <35521897.2928E626@plu.edu> Message-ID: >Does your bookstore sell PCs? > The bookstore doesn't, but we do (IT). >If so, what brand? Apple and Dell > >What kind of success (or lack thereof) have your had with vendor >discounts, sales, service, support? Changes all the time, but I still think it is a worthwhile service. > >Can you provide the name of your bookstore contact? You can contact me or Miranda Carney-Morris (mccm@lclark.edu) --Bret From weisman at pacificu.edu Tue May 12 08:40:24 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Apple Message-ID: OK, I've tallied all the votes and there's a small but clear majority for Friday, July 10th. So Unless something nuclear has happened for you all in the last two weeks, that's the date (I just need to confirm with Apple). Can I get a rough head count of how many would be coming? Thanks gang. -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jjmiller at lclark.edu Tue May 12 08:52:36 1998 From: jjmiller at lclark.edu (Jeris Miller) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Apple In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Jeb -- I will be attending on July 10th. Much thanks for your efforts. :-Jeris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeris J. Miller Lewis & Clark College Senior Technical Consultant Academic Technologies Internet: jjmiller@lclark.edu Info. Tech. Division Web Address: Voice: (503) 768-7221 http://www.lclark.edu/~infotech Fax: (503)768-7228 "If it works, it's obsolete." Understanding Media, p.12. -- Marshall McLuhan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Tue, 12 May 1998, Jeb Weisman wrote: > OK, I've tallied all the votes and there's a small but clear majority for > Friday, July 10th. So Unless something nuclear has happened for you all > in the last two weeks, that's the date (I just need to confirm with > Apple). > > Can I get a rough head count of how many would be coming? > > Thanks gang. > > -Jeb > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | > | Services 97116 | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > From cqualey at linfield.edu Tue May 12 09:04:54 1998 From: cqualey at linfield.edu (Carol Qualey) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Apple In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I will be attending Summer Camp July 10. Thanks for your efforts, Jeb, ---------------------- Carol Qualey Software Support, Linfield College 900 SE Baker, McMinnville, OR 97128 Email: cqualey@linfield.edu Phone: (503)434-2559 From ingerman at lclark.edu Tue May 12 09:49:43 1998 From: ingerman at lclark.edu (Bret Ingerman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Apple In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jeb: I would think 4-8 will come from LC. --Bret At 8:50 AM -0700 5/12/98, Jeb Weisman wrote: >OK, I've tallied all the votes and there's a small but clear majority for >Friday, July 10th. So Unless something nuclear has happened for you all >in the last two weeks, that's the date (I just need to confirm with >Apple). > >Can I get a rough head count of how many would be coming? > >Thanks gang. > >-Jeb > >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | >| Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | >| University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | >| Services 97116 | >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PietrasP at evergreen.edu Tue May 12 10:00:18 1998 From: PietrasP at evergreen.edu (Pietras, Pete) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Apple Message-ID: Count me in. I'll be there. I think there will be about 4 from Evergreen. Julian (aka Pete) > At 8:50 AM -0700 5/12/98, Jeb Weisman wrote: > >OK, I've tallied all the votes and there's a small but clear majority > for > >Friday, July 10th. So Unless something nuclear has happened for you > all > >in the last two weeks, that's the date (I just need to confirm with > >Apple). > > > >Can I get a rough head count of how many would be coming? > > > >Thanks gang. > > > >-Jeb > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > >| Jeb Weisman Pacific University > weisman@pacificu.edu | > >| Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) > | > >| University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) > | > >| Services 97116 > | > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > > > From weisman at pacificu.edu Wed May 13 12:53:31 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: New Admit Letter Message-ID: here's the New Admit Letter. I've been crawling through some stuff here so I apologize for my tardiness. It's date is old and it is long (on purpose).... -Jeb 13 April 1998 Dear : University Information Services (UIS) would like to congratulate you on your admission to Pacific. UIS is responsible for almost every aspect of computing and data communications for students, faculty, and staff. We would like to take this opportunity to make you aware of a few of our technology resources and some information about personal computers. In this technological era, your classes may require you to not only type your papers, but to participate in group discussions via e-mail, explore the World Wide Web, and develop projects and presentations using computer and multimedia resources -- skills which will prove invaluable to you as a student and in your future careers. Our professors often require course work involving computer technology in order to support the linkage between abstract information and experience. For this reason we strongly recommend that all incoming students have their own personal computers. Pacific supports Apple Macintosh and PC-compatible computers on our campus network. It is our experience that PC-compatibles take a bit more work to effectively integrate into an academic network. In order to more readily and efficiently integrate your personal computer into the University, it is our recommendation that you consider making any new computer purchase either an Apple Power Macintosh or a Dell PC-compatible desktop or laptop system. Whether you bring a computer from home or purchase one from our campus Computer Store, there are some things that you should know before making a purchase decision: Even if you do not have a computer, you still have access to lab facilities available throughout the University, including a 24-hour open-access lab in our University Center, Harvey Scott Memorial Library, and a multimedia lab. Every student in the residence halls is able and encouraged to connect his or her computer directly to the University network. Students off-campus can access the network using a modem through our dial-in system. Students who do not have their own computers can access their e-mail, the World Wide Web, and other network and Internet services by using one of the computer lab or library machines. Macintosh systems are less complicated to network than PC-compatible systems. With this in mind, Pacific has created a PC standard based upon Dell Computer products. The Computer Store sells Dell PC-compatible systems pre-configured for easy installation. Although we do not require you to purchase a computer from the university, please be aware that if you purchase a PC-compatible system elsewhere, we cannot guarantee that it will network properly and do to limited resources we will only be able to provide limited support. To help network your PC-compatible system, we recommend a 3COM 10BaseT Ethernet adapter with a TCP/IP network driver that will work with your operating system software. Whether you are considering purchasing a computer or bringing a computer from home, we recommend a system with the following minimum basic hardware standards: 32 megabytes (MB) of RAM, 3 gigabyte (GB) hard disk, a 16x CD-ROM drive, and a processor speed of at least 200MHz. If you are purchasing a PC-compatible system, we recommend a Pentium, Pentium II, Pentium w/MMX, or Pentium Pro Processor and if you are purchasing an Apple Computer, we recommend any of the current Power Macintosh PowerPC models. Students living in the residence halls do not need a modem. The University uses a variety of productivity and communication software tools. The majority of faculty and staff use Microsoft Word, Excel, and Claris FileMaker Pro. Internet software for e-mail, browsing the World Wide Web, and transferring files is provided without charge by the University. Pacific can provide a unique opportunity to you in regards to computer purchasing. The relationships we have cultivated with Apple Computer, Dell Computer, and a variety of software vendors allow us to extend to you and to all members of the Pacific University community special higher education discounts through our Computer Store. In contrast to retail pricing, we receive, on average, price breaks from Apple of $50-$400 on most systems and special bundle pricing on the robust Optiplex line from Dell. In addition, these relationships allow us to provide a high level of warranty support. We have enclosed current pricing information. Neither Apple nor Dell have finalized their Back-To-School prices and configurations. Nonetheless we know this is the time you begin to think about computer needs and we hope the information provided will give you a sense of our likely discounts. In late June or early July, we will be sending out the official Back-To-School Sale materials as well as detailed information regarding Information Services, available facilities, most frequently asked questions, and opportunities to work with our staff. Because we do not require you to purchase a computer, Financial Aid is not available for computer purchases; however, there is financing available for Apple Computers through the Apple Loan Program. If this is something of interest to you, you can receive more detailed information by calling Apple at 1-800-277-5356. If you are interested in investigating finance alternatives for Dell purchases, please contact either of us directly. Later this summer, you will receive another packet of information from us with more details and information about computing and information services. In the meantime, should you have any questions or concerns about computer purchases, please feel free to give us a call at (503) 359-2244 or contact us via e-mail at . Our regular Computer Store hours are: Monday - Friday, 9:00am - 5:00pm Pacific Time. If you would like to speak to either of us directly, we welcome your call at the numbers and e-mail addresses below. We hope you have a wonderful summer and we look forward to welcoming you into the Pacific community this fall. Sincerely, Jeb Weisman Allison L. Batty Director of University User Support Services Information Services Coordinator 503-359-2944 503-359-2973 weisman@pacificu.edu battya1@pacificu.edu From worleyme at plu.edu Thu May 14 08:13:36 1998 From: worleyme at plu.edu (Margaret Worley) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: System messages in pop mail Message-ID: <355B0A20.C5C38C92@plu.edu> For those of you who use pop mail, how do you generate system messages? Do you send out e-mail to everyone? If so, is there something special about your message that would cause people to pay attention instead of deleting it? Thanks in advance for your help Margaret Worley Asst. Director, User Services/Academic Support Computing and Telecommunication Services Pacific Lutheran University From aldrich at ups.edu Thu May 14 12:33:02 1998 From: aldrich at ups.edu (Tom Aldrich) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: System messages in pop mail Message-ID: Margaret, We build lists of all the email address for all campus, students, faculty, faculty and staff. We are trying to limit mail to all to messages coming from cabinet-level positions or with cabinet-level support - that and necessary system messages. Others are encouraged to post to a campus announcements conference on webboard. You can use a priority field in eudora, but if it's coming from a general address like announcements@blah.blah.edu if they don't want to read it the priority won't matter. Good subject lines are useful. Tom At 9:36 AM 5/14/98, Margaret Worley wrote: >For those of you who use pop mail, how do you generate system messages? > >Do you send out e-mail to everyone? If so, is there something special >about your message that would cause people to pay attention instead of >deleting it? > >Thanks in advance for your help > >Margaret Worley >Asst. Director, User Services/Academic Support >Computing and Telecommunication Services >Pacific Lutheran University From weisman at pacificu.edu Tue May 19 11:20:17 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: The LETTER Message-ID: Hi gang, I'm hearing through the grape vine and from one e-mail that some of you found the entering students letter helpful in one form or another. I was wondering if those of you who used it or some derivation could share that with me/us (the content, that is). -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu Tue May 19 13:05:50 1998 From: Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu (Marianne Colgrove) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: The LETTER Message-ID: <5669740@isis.reed.edu> Here's a letter we're just sending out today. If anyone wants the Q&A (two pages long), let me know and I'll send that directly. Marianne Dear New Student and Parents, Congratulations on your decision to attend Reed! I'm sure you have many questions about what you'll be encountering as you head off to college next fall. The attached Q&A About Computing at Reed answers the most common questions we receive about our computing environment and recommended student computer systems. Reed is recognized as a national leader in liberal arts computing for the innovative ways it incorporates technology in the curriculum. Computers are viewed as a valuable tool for teaching, learning and scholarly work. Nearly all of the Reed faculty use computers on a regular basis and more than half incorporate technology into their courses. As personal computers become more powerful and an increasing number of computer-based resources become available, even more faculty are incorporating computers into their courses. Please take a moment to read through the following materials about computing at Reed. If you still have questions, you can contact me directly at the phone number or email address shown below. Or, pay a visit to either of the following websites: Computing information http://web.reed.edu/resources/cis Computer purchase info http://web.reed.edu/resources/cis/chs/resale Now that we've given you some information about computing at Reed, we'd like to get some information back from you. The attached survey will help us better understand your computing needs for the coming year. You can FAX or mail the survey back to us, or go to the website http://database.reed.edu/chs/survey.qry and complete the survey there. Meanwhile, we hope you have a happy graduation and enjoy a good summer before you embark on your college adventure. See you in August! Marianne Colgrove Associate Director 503/777-7792 (voice) 503/777-7778 (fax) mcolgrove@reed.edu PS. In June we'll be sending additional information with specific computer recommendations and prices -- check your Orientation packet when it arrives! From weisman at pacificu.edu Fri May 22 08:46:42 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Housing for Summer Camp Message-ID: Hi Gang. I know the formal invitation from Apple hasn't gone out yet, but the Summer Camp for July 10th isn't far away. I mentioned housing in my earlier missive, but I thought I'd get a count from thos ewho are plannign on going so, 1) There are basically two places to stay right here in scenic Forst Grove. One is a very civilized TraveLodge within walking distance of campus. I'd be glad to provide the phone number for resrevations there. 2) The ubiquitous On-Campus housing. Plan on "Doubles". For this I do need a head count. I know Whitman is in for 6 people (3 doubles). Anybody else need a campus roof and for how long? (Presumably Thursday night and probably Friday night?) Sooner I get this info, the sooner I can make arrangements. -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From weisman at pacificu.edu Fri May 22 11:58:48 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Cool Tools Message-ID: Hi folks. I've just been talking with Enrique from Apple. In addition to the usual odds and ends, his crew would like to burn a CD-ROM that everyone could leave the meeting with. The general concept would be white papers, actually software applications, useful links, whatever. So I guess the questions is, if someone was going to give you somthing like this, what kinds of solutions oriented info/tools/stuff would be helpful. Feel free to mention products, but gteneral categories will also suffice. We do neet to get this info fairly quickly so they can research and build the CD in time for the 10th. -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bnelson at willamette.edu Tue May 26 11:33:04 1998 From: bnelson at willamette.edu (Bill Nelson) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Cool Tools In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I just got a request from faculty for Apple Java development tools... BN _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Nelson Tokyo International University of America P O Box 14040 Salem, OR, USA 97309 bnelson@willamette.edu On Fri, 22 May 1998, Jeb Weisman wrote: > Hi folks. > > I've just been talking with Enrique from Apple. In addition to the usual > odds and ends, his crew would like to burn a CD-ROM that everyone could > leave the meeting with. The general concept would be white papers, > actually software applications, useful links, whatever. > > So I guess the questions is, if someone was going to give you somthing > like this, what kinds of solutions oriented info/tools/stuff would be > helpful. Feel free to mention products, but gteneral categories will > also suffice. > > We do neet to get this info fairly quickly so they can research and build > the CD in time for the 10th. > > -Jeb > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | > | Services 97116 | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > From PietrasP at evergreen.edu Fri May 29 15:41:14 1998 From: PietrasP at evergreen.edu (Pietras, Pete) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Cool Tools Message-ID: Hi Jeb, here are a few ideas: Java Development tools for the Mac Web based curricular development tools Documents and case studies on usage of Foreign language characters/fonts on the Mac Documentation on usage of MS Office 98 for Mac -- there just isn't anything now Collaboratory tools A calendar maker for printing out schedules of labs and classrooms using a month or quarter at a glance format (without printing on 2'x3' paper!). Ever try to squeeze seven lab scheulde times into one day's block on a calendar? > ---------- > From: Jeb Weisman > Reply To: nw-heat@willamette.org > Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 12:23 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Cool Tools > > Hi folks. > > I've just been talking with Enrique from Apple. In addition to the > usual > odds and ends, his crew would like to burn a CD-ROM that everyone > could > leave the meeting with. The general concept would be white papers, > actually software applications, useful links, whatever. > > So I guess the questions is, if someone was going to give you somthing > like this, what kinds of solutions oriented info/tools/stuff would be > helpful. Feel free to mention products, but gteneral categories will > also suffice. > > We do neet to get this info fairly quickly so they can research and > build > the CD in time for the 10th. > > -Jeb > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > --+ > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University > weisman@pacificu.edu | > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) > | > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) > | > | Services 97116 > | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > --+ > From weisman at pacificu.edu Fri May 29 17:06:05 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Fri Jul 16 16:34:34 2004 Subject: Cool Tools In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Got it. -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Fri, 29 May 1998, Pietras, Pete wrote: > Hi Jeb, > > here are a few ideas: > > Java Development tools for the Mac > > Web based curricular development tools > > Documents and case studies on usage of Foreign language > characters/fonts on the Mac > > Documentation on usage of MS Office 98 for Mac -- there just isn't > anything now > > Collaboratory tools > > A calendar maker for printing out schedules of labs and classrooms using > a month or quarter at a glance format (without printing on 2'x3' > paper!). Ever try to squeeze seven lab scheulde times into one day's > block on a calendar? > > > > > ---------- > > From: Jeb Weisman > > Reply To: nw-heat@willamette.org > > Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 12:23 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Cool Tools > > > > Hi folks. > > > > I've just been talking with Enrique from Apple. In addition to the > > usual > > odds and ends, his crew would like to burn a CD-ROM that everyone > > could > > leave the meeting with. The general concept would be white papers, > > actually software applications, useful links, whatever. > > > > So I guess the questions is, if someone was going to give you somthing > > like this, what kinds of solutions oriented info/tools/stuff would be > > helpful. Feel free to mention products, but gteneral categories will > > also suffice. > > > > We do neet to get this info fairly quickly so they can research and > > build > > the CD in time for the 10th. > > > > -Jeb > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --+ > > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University > > weisman@pacificu.edu | > > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) > > | > > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) > > | > > | Services 97116 > > | > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --+ > > > From mmyers at willamette.edu Fri May 1 09:34:50 1998 From: mmyers at willamette.edu (Mike Myers) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Web page traffic Message-ID: Well, after an underwhelming response of three sites (UPS, Clark Collge and TESC) here's the summary: WU 45K hits/day UPS 50K hits/day TESC 25K hits/day Clark College 2.5K PAGES/day If anyone wants to add some more info I'll post an update. I'm sure Keiko will add this to the web page :) - Mike From mmyers at willamette.edu Fri May 1 09:35:57 1998 From: mmyers at willamette.edu (Mike Myers) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Missed one... Message-ID: How could I leave Whitman off the list? Freudian slip I'm sure... They at about 40K hits/day. - Mike From krupicka at pacificu.edu Mon May 4 13:37:45 1998 From: krupicka at pacificu.edu (Ted Krupicka) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Cisco Y2K info Message-ID: Just thought I'd pass on some Year 2000 info since I was doing the research. You can look at their web page but you may need a CCO password. http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/752/2000/cptbl_ov.htm The only supported IOS for the standard routers is 11.0 and greater and here are a few of the products that will not be tested because they are "end of life": Routers: AGS/AGS+ CGS 750 1100 2000 3000 3202 Comm Server: CS-500 Looks like I need to start looing for a replacement for my 3000! -Ted Krupicka ********************************************************************** University Information Services Network and UNIX Administrator Pacific University E-Mail krupicka@pacificu.edu 2043 College Way Phone (503) 359-2927 Forest Grove, OR 97116 Fax (503) 359-2959 ********* *************** From aldrich at ups.edu Tue May 5 09:56:22 1998 From: aldrich at ups.edu (Tom Aldrich) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: charging students Message-ID: All, Based on a recent short survey sent out to the board list, the following table outlines the status of charging students for computer services for those schools that responded. Schoool Charge Amount Charge for Annual Fee Raised Printing Evergreen no - no Pacific $100/year $165,000 no WSU Pullman $60/semester ? ? WSU Vancouver no - no Saint Martin's not yet - $.03/page Linfield $110/year $203,500 no Reed no ? $.10/page PLU no - no (* PLU uses 3-hole-punched) Whitman no - no Willamette no - no LC no - no (* LC will start a program in September that will provide a credit of pages, then charge a fee after the credit has been used. The fee has not yet been determined). UPS no - no (* UPS will start a program in September that likely will provide a credit of pages, then charge a fee after the credit has been used. The amount of credit and the fee have not yet been determined.) If more data trickles in, I'll send out an update. Tom From mmorandi at willamette.edu Tue May 5 09:56:13 1998 From: mmorandi at willamette.edu (Marti Morandi) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Help Desk Position Opening at Willamette University Message-ID: Willamette University is located in the beautiful Willamette Valley in Salem, Oregon. WITS (Willamette Integrated Technology Services) is a team-oriented organization comprised of Administrative Computing, Academic Computing, Media Services, Telecommunications and Technical Services. You can check the Willamette Web site at http://www.willamette.edu and WITS in particular ...add wits/. To see the organizational chart click on "About WITS". This position pays approximately 32K. NOTIFICATION OF PROFESSIONAL POSITION OPENING THE FOLLOWING POSITION IS AVAILABLE TO QUALIFIED APPLICANTS USER SERVICES CONSULTANT Willamette Integrated Technology Services announces an opening for User Services Consultant to provide support and assistance to computer/network users on campus and producing user documentation. Willamette University is a small, private, coeducation university with a College of Liberal Arts and graduate schools in law, management, and teaching. To apply, submit a letter of application, resume, the names and telephone numbers of three references, and an Administrative/Professional Staff Employment Application to Carol Black, Director of Human Resources, Willamette University, 900 State St., Salem, OR 97301. The screening process will begin May 15, 1998 and continue until filled. Following is a detailed position description of the responsibilities and qualifications for this position: DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES: The duties and responsibilities of the User Services Consultant include, but are not limited to, the following functions: 1. Manages the Help Desk for students, faculty, and staff on the use of computer hardware, software, and network. 2. Serves as the initial point of contact for faculty, staff and students seeking assistance with technology. 3. Assists faculty and staff in the use and application of microcomputer software such as word processors and spreadsheets. 4. Maintains system documentation. 5. Prepares and disseminates information (e.g. documentation, handouts, newsletter) regarding the WITS services. 6. Serves as a resource for identifying and solving computer related hardware and software problems. 7. Researches and recommends software and equipment solutions. 8. Participates in planning, coordinating, designing, scheduling, and conducting staff development seminars and institutional development projects. 9. Oversees operation of the Smullin general access computer lab and residence hall clusters; trains student lab assistants; supervises student lab managers. 10. Performs other essential duties and tasks as assigned. QUALIFICATION STANDARDS: 1. Any combination of education, training or experience that provides the knowledge, skills and abilities required to perform the essential function of the position. A Bachelor's degree or two-year college degree plus three years experience in relevant field. 2. A minimum of two years experience in microcomputer user support in a networked computing environment. 3. Demonstrated knowledge and experience in: a. operation of microcomputer equipment and other peripheral devices; b. installation of microcomputer applications in a networked environment; c. use of various application software; d. use of the Internet; e. consulting users on various software, hardware, and network problems; f. consulting with users on and diagnosing problems in database applications. 4. Strong service orientation. 5. Strong interpersonal and communication skills. 6. A proven ability to make technical issues understandable and an ability to match technical opportunities to University goals. 7. Preferred skills include experience in user services in higher education, preparation of documentation and experience beyond the minimum requirement. 8. Successful clearance of a criminal conviction record check. 9. Ability to establish and maintain cooperative and harmonious working relationships with a variety of campus constituencies. WILLAMETTE UNIVERSITY IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER AND EMBRACES EXCELLENCE THROUGH DIVERSITY POSTED: 4/28/98 Please contact me directly for further information. Thanks, Marti Marti Morandi, Director Operations and Production Willamette Integrated Technology Services Willamette University 900 State Street Salem OR 97301 Office: (503)370-6650 FAX: (503)375-5456 mmorandi@willamette.edu From mmorandi at willamette.edu Tue May 5 15:19:50 1998 From: mmorandi at willamette.edu (Marti Morandi) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Salary correction to previously posted position Message-ID: Correction to the Help Desk position previously posted for Willamette...should have read approximate salary 30K NOT 32K. Sorry, Marti Marti Morandi, Director Production and Operations Willamette Integrated Technology Services Willamette University Salem, OR 97301 (503)370-6650/mmorandi@willamette.edu From weisman at pacificu.edu Wed May 6 09:50:53 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: charging students In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Tom. One question that sort of sneaks aroundd the fee issue. Do you have any other technology charges to students. When I was researching this couple of years ago, at least one school charged for network hook-ups, another had some other fees, others charged for certain software. Of course this may have changed as time has passed. Still, I would caution that direct technology fees are one mode for charging, but non-aggregated, or indirect fees are another method. -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Tue, 5 May 1998, Tom Aldrich wrote: > All, > > Based on a recent short survey sent out to the board list, the following > table outlines the status of charging students for computer services for > those schools that responded. > > Schoool Charge Amount Charge for > Annual Fee Raised Printing > > Evergreen no - no > Pacific $100/year $165,000 no > WSU Pullman $60/semester ? ? > WSU Vancouver no - no > Saint Martin's not yet - $.03/page > Linfield $110/year $203,500 no > Reed no ? $.10/page > PLU no - no > (* PLU uses 3-hole-punched) > Whitman no - no > Willamette no - no > LC no - no > (* LC will start a program in September that will provide a > credit of pages, then charge a fee after the credit has been used. > The fee has not yet been determined). > UPS no - no > (* UPS will start a program in September that likely will provide a > credit of pages, then charge a fee after the credit has been used. > The amount of credit and the fee have not yet been determined.) > > If more data trickles in, I'll send out an update. > > Tom > > > From weisman at pacificu.edu Wed May 6 09:54:12 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: And while I'm at it... Message-ID: Simple questions. If you use Banner or Datatel, how many dedicated full-time staff support the product? And if FTE is different, what is that number? For example, Pacific has 5 solely for this. 1 Programmer, 1 Sys Admin., 1 Tech. Services, 1 Trainer/Consultant, 1 Benefactor Mgr. Then there are distributed responsibilities for querying, data entry, etc., around the school. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From houstobc at whitman.edu Wed May 6 10:09:20 1998 From: houstobc at whitman.edu (Ben Cody Houston) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Web-Based Course Toold Message-ID: Hi everyone! There was some talk at the last NW-HEAT meeting about on-line course tools, and we have some professors here that are very interested in using it. However, they would like to see some examples of it in use before they reached a final decision. Can anyone out there give us perhaps a guest account in a class that has a good bit of material in it so they could see what a live, fleshed-out web class looks like? We're most interested in TopClass and WebCT right now, but if you can get really good stuff done with other software, I'm sure we'd like to see it. Other questions (these related mostly to WebCT...) 1. Will it run on Linux? 2. How stable is the NT beta? 3. How much CPU overhead does it take (do you need a beefy machine for it or will a low-end Pentium linux box work okay) 4. In the testing part of it, can it pull questions out of a pool at random to give to students? If a student gets a question wrong, can the software pull another related question instead of moving on to another topic? That's about it... any help you could give me (us) would be great... thanks! -ben From mmorandi at willamette.edu Wed May 6 11:01:38 1998 From: mmorandi at willamette.edu (Marti Morandi) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: And while I'm at it... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'd say 3 at WU. Two programmers and Director of Admin Technologies. Marti Marti Morandi, Director Production and Operations Willamette Integrated Technology Services Willamette University Salem, OR 97301 (503)370-6650/mmorandi@willamette.edu On Wed, 6 May 1998, Jeb Weisman wrote: > Simple questions. If you use Banner or Datatel, how many dedicated > full-time staff support the product? And if FTE is different, what is that > number? > > For example, Pacific has 5 solely for this. > > 1 Programmer, 1 Sys Admin., 1 Tech. Services, 1 Trainer/Consultant, 1 > Benefactor Mgr. > > > Then there are distributed responsibilities for querying, data entry, > etc., around the school. > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | > | Services 97116 | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > From PietrasP at evergreen.edu Wed May 6 13:31:37 1998 From: PietrasP at evergreen.edu (Pietras, Pete) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: And while I'm at it... Message-ID: It would be interesting to know how many & which modules are used. Sounds like the Pacific folks either have HR or foundation stuff (benefactors mgr???). But do they have student or finance as well? or all? And if they only have one module, how many staff ae used to support the other parts of the admin system? > ---------- > From: Jeb Weisman > Reply To: nw-heat@willamette.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 1998 10:50 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: And while I'm at it... > > Simple questions. If you use Banner or Datatel, how many dedicated > full-time staff support the product? And if FTE is different, what is > that > number? > > For example, Pacific has 5 solely for this. > > 1 Programmer, 1 Sys Admin., 1 Tech. Services, 1 Trainer/Consultant, 1 > Benefactor Mgr. > > > Then there are distributed responsibilities for querying, data entry, > etc., around the school. > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > --+ > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University > weisman@pacificu.edu | > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) > | > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) > | > | Services 97116 > | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > --+ > From weisman at pacificu.edu Wed May 6 17:52:04 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: And while I'm at it... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For the record, you name it, we got it. We own but don't currently use HR, we own but don't currently use facilities, and we own, but don't currently use the events modules. We do use student, core, registrar, housing, admissions, financial aid, A/R, etc., etc., etc. But for now, I'm just looking for dedicated staff sizes. -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Wed, 6 May 1998, Pietras, Pete wrote: > It would be interesting to know how many & which modules are used. > Sounds like the Pacific folks either have HR or foundation stuff > (benefactors mgr???). But do they have student or finance as well? or > all? And if they only have one module, how many staff ae used to > support the other parts of the admin system? > > > > ---------- > > From: Jeb Weisman > > Reply To: nw-heat@willamette.org > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 1998 10:50 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: And while I'm at it... > > > > Simple questions. If you use Banner or Datatel, how many dedicated > > full-time staff support the product? And if FTE is different, what is > > that > > number? > > > > For example, Pacific has 5 solely for this. > > > > 1 Programmer, 1 Sys Admin., 1 Tech. Services, 1 Trainer/Consultant, 1 > > Benefactor Mgr. > > > > > > Then there are distributed responsibilities for querying, data entry, > > etc., around the school. > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --+ > > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University > > weisman@pacificu.edu | > > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) > > | > > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) > > | > > | Services 97116 > > | > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --+ > > > From irvw at linfield.edu Thu May 7 08:10:04 1998 From: irvw at linfield.edu (Irv Wiswall) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: And while I'm at it... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm getting better job titles, but for now - we have 5 people doing colleague, a director, programmer/analyst, programmer, benefactor administrator and an operator. -Irv On Wed, 6 May 1998 18:26:28 -0700 Jeb Weisman wrote: > For the record, you name it, we got it. We own but don't currently use > HR, we own but don't currently use facilities, and we own, but don't > currently use the events modules. We do use student, core, registrar, > housing, admissions, financial aid, A/R, etc., etc., etc. > > > But for now, I'm just looking for dedicated staff sizes. > > -Jeb > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | > | Services 97116 | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > On Wed, 6 May 1998, Pietras, Pete wrote: > > > It would be interesting to know how many & which modules are used. > > Sounds like the Pacific folks either have HR or foundation stuff > > (benefactors mgr???). But do they have student or finance as well? or > > all? And if they only have one module, how many staff ae used to > > support the other parts of the admin system? > > > > > > > ---------- > > > From: Jeb Weisman > > > Reply To: nw-heat@willamette.org > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 1998 10:50 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > > Subject: And while I'm at it... > > > > > > Simple questions. If you use Banner or Datatel, how many dedicated > > > full-time staff support the product? And if FTE is different, what is > > > that > > > number? > > > > > > For example, Pacific has 5 solely for this. > > > > > > 1 Programmer, 1 Sys Admin., 1 Tech. Services, 1 Trainer/Consultant, 1 > > > Benefactor Mgr. > > > > > > > > > Then there are distributed responsibilities for querying, data entry, > > > etc., around the school. > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --+ > > > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University > > > weisman@pacificu.edu | > > > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) > > > | > > > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) > > > | > > > | Services 97116 > > > | > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --+ > > > > > > From Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu Thu May 7 09:32:57 1998 From: Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu (Marianne Colgrove) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: And while I'm at it... Message-ID: <5574099@isis.reed.edu> Reed also has 5 people, though several of them do desktop support in addition to Banner. 1 Director of Administrative Computing 3 Programmer User Support Specialist 1 Operator We are using Banner student, financials and alumni/development. Marianne Colgrove mcolgrove@reed.edu From Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu Thu May 7 09:41:04 1998 From: Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu (Marianne Colgrove) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: duh Message-ID: <5574193@isis.reed.edu> I also forgot to mention we have one database administrator. So, that makes 6 people that do admin computing, but not just Banner. Marinane --- Forwarded Message from Marianne Colgrove --- >Date: 07 May 98 09:32:57 PDT >From: Marianne Colgrove >Reply-To: Marianne.Colgrove@reed.edu >Subject: Re: And while I'm at it... >To: nw-heat@willamette.org Reed also has 5 people, though several of them do desktop support in addition to Banner. 1 Director of Administrative Computing 3 Programmer User Support Specialist 1 Operator We are using Banner student, financials and alumni/development. Marianne Colgrove mcolgrove@reed.edu From worleyme at plu.edu Thu May 7 13:24:55 1998 From: worleyme at plu.edu (Margaret Worley) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Selling computers Message-ID: <35521897.2928E626@plu.edu> We've proposed to our bookstore that they sell name brand (as opposed to generic) PCs. We've suggested Micron (because that's our campus standard for faculty and staff), Gateway or Dell. Questions: Does your bookstore sell PCs? If so, what brand? What kind of success (or lack thereof) have your had with vendor discounts, sales, service, support? Can you provide the name of your bookstore contact? Please respond to me and I'll summarize for the group if there's interest. Thanks Margaret Worley Asst. Director, User Services/Academic Support Computing and Telecommunication Services Pacific Lutheran University From houstobc at whitman.edu Thu May 7 14:44:19 1998 From: houstobc at whitman.edu (Ben Cody Houston) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Front Page Extensions-Evil or Benign? Message-ID: Mike Myers from Willamette has been nice enough to send me some articles about the evils of have MS FrontPage extensions installed on your web server. Some really really scary stuff, and they're recent articles too. Is anyone out there using them? We would be installing them on UNIX, probably apache. Aside from that, are they *really* that useful? What to they do besides linking your web page creator to the web server and masking ftp transfers? (This seems like a bad idea to me anyway, but...) -ben From gshearer at seattleu.edu Thu May 7 14:58:46 1998 From: gshearer at seattleu.edu (George W. Shearer) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Selling computers In-Reply-To: <35521897.2928E626@plu.edu> Message-ID: Seattle University does not sell hardware-only software. Even that does not sell. With everything moving to web service, I am not sure you would want to get into such a competitive business. Why not order online and set up a virtual operation that cuts out most of the overhead. Just a thought. George Shearer Director Instructional Media Services Seattle University (206) 296-5592 gshearer@seattleu.edu On Thu, 7 May 1998, Margaret Worley wrote: > We've proposed to our bookstore that they sell name brand (as opposed to > generic) PCs. We've suggested Micron (because that's our campus > standard for faculty and staff), Gateway or Dell. > > Questions: > > Does your bookstore sell PCs? > > If so, what brand? > > What kind of success (or lack thereof) have your had with vendor > discounts, sales, service, support? > > Can you provide the name of your bookstore contact? > > Please respond to me and I'll summarize for the group if there's > interest. > > Thanks > Margaret Worley > Asst. Director, User Services/Academic Support > Computing and Telecommunication Services > Pacific Lutheran University > From jjmiller at lclark.edu Thu May 7 15:31:14 1998 From: jjmiller at lclark.edu (Jeris Miller) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Front Page Extensions-Evil or Benign? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Ben -- We do not have the front end extensions installed on our UNIX server here at Lewis & Clark, but I recently discovered a reason to do so. If you would like to incorporate Power Point presentations into your Front Page web that contain animated elements such as slide transitions, background music audio files or voice overs on the slide (used in kiosk presentations), or video clips, the front end extensions support the Microsoft's ASF format (Active Movie Streaming Format) which is proprietary. In a nutshell, if you want animation on your web site that requires ASF you need the front end server extensions. Ahhh we live in a Microsoft world .... ;-Jeris Miller ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeris J. Miller Lewis & Clark College Senior Technical Consultant Academic Technologies Internet: jjmiller@lclark.edu Info. Tech. Division Web Address: Voice: (503) 768-7221 http://www.lclark.edu/~infotech Fax: (503)768-7228 "If it works, it's obsolete." Understanding Media, p.12. -- Marshall McLuhan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Thu, 7 May 1998, Ben Cody Houston wrote: > Mike Myers from Willamette has been nice enough to send me some articles about the evils of have MS FrontPage extensions installed on your web server. Some really really scary stuff, and they're recent articles too. Is anyone out there using them? We would be installing them on UNIX, probably apache. > > Aside from that, are they *really* that useful? What to they do besides linking your web page creator to the web server and masking ftp transfers? (This seems like a bad idea to me anyway, but...) > > -ben > > From PietrasP at evergreen.edu Thu May 7 15:52:10 1998 From: PietrasP at evergreen.edu (Pietras, Pete) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Selling computers Message-ID: > Questions: > > Does your bookstore sell PCs? Yes. Macs. > If so, what brand? Macs > What kind of success (or lack thereof) have your had with vendor > discounts, sales, service, support? Has been pretty good over past few years. I believe it is declinging now. ALso didn't seem to be much incetive to do this regarding discounts from Apple. > Can you provide the name of your bookstore contact? Kristy Walker 360-866-6000 > Please respond to me and I'll summarize for the group if there's > interest. > > Thanks > Margaret Worley > Asst. Director, User Services/Academic Support > Computing and Telecommunication Services > Pacific Lutheran University > From Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu Thu May 7 17:14:23 1998 From: Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu (Marianne Colgrove) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Selling computers Message-ID: <5580214@isis.reed.edu> --- You wrote: Does your bookstore sell PCs? > we sell them in Computing & Information Services If so, what brand? > Macs What kind of success (or lack thereof) have your had with vendor discounts, sales, service, support? > Over the years I've been mostly happy with Apple. I think we experienced less of a downturn in sales the last couple of years than many other schools have. I am encouraged by Apple's new approach to the higher education store: there is no longer a minimum committment for schools to be authorized Apple purchasers, and the new CAPs payment actually works out pretty well for us. Marianne mcolgrove@reed.edu From weisman at pacificu.edu Thu May 7 20:25:16 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Selling computers In-Reply-To: <35521897.2928E626@plu.edu> Message-ID: See below +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Thu, 7 May 1998, Margaret Worley wrote: > We've proposed to our bookstore that they sell name brand (as opposed to > generic) PCs. We've suggested Micron (because that's our campus > standard for faculty and staff), Gateway or Dell. > > Questions: > > Does your bookstore sell PCs? >>>>No, we handle that. > > If so, what brand? >>>>Apple and Dell > > What kind of success (or lack thereof) have your had with vendor > discounts, sales, service, support? >>>>> Fairly good with Apple, moderate w/Dell > > Can you provide the name of your bookstore contact? Our department run store contact is Allison batty (battya1@pacificu.edu) > From bnelson at willamette.edu Fri May 8 08:56:34 1998 From: bnelson at willamette.edu (Bill Nelson) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Front Page Extensions-Evil or Benign? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings, We installed all the active server page stuff on IIS v3.0 (on NT 4) but ended up removing them because the added files and complexity didn't seem worth the value added. The extra files needed in each folder confused some of the web authors, etc. BN _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Nelson Tokyo International University of America P O Box 14040 Salem, OR, USA 97309 bnelson@willamette.edu On Thu, 7 May 1998, Ben Cody Houston wrote: > Mike Myers from Willamette has been nice enough to send me some articles about the evils of have MS FrontPage extensions installed on your web server. Some really really scary stuff, and they're recent articles too. Is anyone out there using them? We would be installing them on UNIX, probably apache. > > Aside from that, are they *really* that useful? What to they do besides linking your web page creator to the web server and masking ftp transfers? (This seems like a bad idea to me anyway, but...) > > -ben > > From rtanner at linfield.edu Fri May 8 09:59:32 1998 From: rtanner at linfield.edu (Rob Tanner) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: WEB Search engines: recommendations please Message-ID: Here at Linfield we have a home grown search engine for our WEB space that is hopelessly inadequate. It was written quite a while back when our space was both smaller and flatter. I have looked at what it would take to fix the inadequacies, and decided I have too many other priorities. I have looked briefly at Glimse, and what I see so far I like. My question is: what kinds of search engines are you using for your WEB pages. I would appreciate any recommendations or cautions you might have. Thanks. -- Rob _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ /\_\_\_\_\ /\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, /\/_/__\/_/ __ /\/_/ /\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_/ /\/_/ /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_/ /\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ appears profound) Rob Tanner Manager of Systems and Communications Linfield College, McMinnville OR (503) 434-2558 From Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu Fri May 8 10:52:07 1998 From: Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu (Marianne Colgrove) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Tangent Message-ID: <5585586@isis.reed.edu> I just had an interesting meeting with our Tangent representative. They sell Windows systems to government and higher education. Does anyone have any experience, good or bad, with Tangent? Thanks, Marianne mcolgrove@reed.edu From mmyers at willamette.edu Fri May 8 11:01:55 1998 From: mmyers at willamette.edu (Mike Myers) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: WEB Search engines: recommendations please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We use the free Excite for Web Servers (EWS) search engine (http://www.excite.com/navigate/ews11_release.html). They provide virtually no support but as far as I can tell it doesn't really need it. They did fix some security flaw when it was brought to their attention and were proactive about contacting sites that use it and letting them know. We're currently running it under Linux. It's not fool-proof and the error messages can take a while to figure out (or more correctly it can take awhile to figure out where the error happened), but the searching uses something similar to the word matching on the regular excite search engine. It takes about 10% of your collection size for an index (that's with "good sumaries" turned on). We used to run it on our old web server (a sun 4 under SunOS) at about 2-3 seconds per search CPU time -- on our new PPro 200 it's so quick you don't notice any real delay. It's available for lots of platforms: Solaris v.2.x, SGI Irix v6.x, BSDI v2.x, HP-UX v10.x, SunOS, NT/Intel v4.x, NT/Alpha v4.x, Solaris x86, Linux I'm happy to share our config with anyone having problems setting it up. You can see ours are www.willamette.edu/search.html - Mike On Fri, 8 May 1998, Rob Tanner wrote: > Here at Linfield we have a home grown search engine for our WEB space that > is hopelessly inadequate. It was written quite a while back when our > space was both smaller and flatter. I have looked at what it would take > to fix the inadequacies, and decided I have too many other priorities. > > I have looked briefly at Glimse, and what I see so far I like. My > question is: what kinds of search engines are you using for your WEB > pages. I would appreciate any recommendations or cautions you might have. > > Thanks. > > -- Rob > > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > /\_\_\_\_\ /\_\ /\_\_\_\_\_\ > /\/_/_/_/_/ /\/_/ \/_/_/_/_/_/ QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT, > /\/_/__\/_/ __ /\/_/ /\/_/ PROFUNDUM VIDITUR > /\/_/_/_/_/ /\_\ /\/_/ /\/_/ > /\/_/ \/_/ /\/_/_/\/_/ /\/_/ (Whatever is said in Latin > \/_/ \/_/ \/_/_/_/_/ \/_/ appears profound) > > Rob Tanner > Manager of Systems and Communications > Linfield College, McMinnville OR > (503) 434-2558 > > From weisman at pacificu.edu Fri May 8 12:46:31 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Tangent In-Reply-To: <5585586@isis.reed.edu> Message-ID: I just met with them yesterday. I've asked for references, especially in terms of service. As we recommend the same systems the University uses to our students for their own purchases, this makes a difference. It's not clear tangent has the tech support horse power to support individual end-users on hat scale. What's your sense? -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Fri, 8 May 1998, Marianne Colgrove wrote: > I just had an interesting meeting with our Tangent representative. They sell > Windows systems to government and higher education. Does anyone have any > experience, good or bad, with Tangent? > > Thanks, > Marianne > mcolgrove@reed.edu > From aldrich at ups.edu Fri May 8 14:09:17 1998 From: aldrich at ups.edu (Tom Aldrich) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: And while I'm at it... Message-ID: Jeb, Impressive - up here it's only sucked up two programmers and two folks from the user's area so far, and has not (yet) taken over the service or network teams. Tom At 10:50 AM 5/6/98, Jeb Weisman wrote: >Simple questions. If you use Banner or Datatel, how many dedicated >full-time staff support the product? And if FTE is different, what is that >number? > >For example, Pacific has 5 solely for this. > >1 Programmer, 1 Sys Admin., 1 Tech. Services, 1 Trainer/Consultant, 1 >Benefactor Mgr. > > >Then there are distributed responsibilities for querying, data entry, >etc., around the school. > >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | >| Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | >| University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | >| Services 97116 | >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu Fri May 8 13:52:38 1998 From: Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu (Marianne Colgrove) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Tangent Message-ID: <5587987@isis.reed.edu> I'm trying to figure that out too. I have a list of references but haven't talked to them yet. Most are government and K12. I think they told me they've got two technician's for the Portland area for hardware service, but I'm not clear on other support. I like their rap - education & government only, lots of organizational flexibility, national presence. But I wonder about what we don't know... Marianne --- You wrote: I just met with them yesterday. I've asked for references, especially in terms of service. As we recommend the same systems the University uses to our students for their own purchases, this makes a difference. It's not clear tangent has the tech support horse power to support individual end-users on hat scale. What's your sense? -Jeb --- end of quote --- From mmyers at willamette.edu Fri May 8 14:55:07 1998 From: mmyers at willamette.edu (Mike Myers) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Tangent In-Reply-To: <5585586@isis.reed.edu> Message-ID: We have a room with 6 of them in it. They have been fairly trouble free computers -- we use them to do training on and provide them as a resource for faculty when they're not in use. Besides a screw up on the keyboards when we ordered I don't think we've had cause to talk to Tangent since we bought them. I personally put a SCSI scanner, CD-ROM and CD-ROM writer into one with little hassle. The cases are fairly spacious and easy to open. Robert Minato here works with them more than I so might add some comments. - Mike On Fri, 8 May 1998, Marianne Colgrove wrote: > I just had an interesting meeting with our Tangent representative. They sell > Windows systems to government and higher education. Does anyone have any > experience, good or bad, with Tangent? > > Thanks, > Marianne > mcolgrove@reed.edu > From rminato at willamette.edu Fri May 8 15:19:17 1998 From: rminato at willamette.edu (Robert Minato) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Tangent In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I recall waiting longer than might be expected for them to show up, but no complaints other than that. We bought these after taking a look at Micron, Dell, and Tangent demo units. As Mike said, we haven't had occasion to find out about service/support; nothing has gone wrong with any of them yet. But, they don't get the workout they'd get in a general access lab. robert On Fri, 8 May 1998, Mike Myers wrote: > We have a room with 6 of them in it. They have been fairly trouble free > computers -- we use them to do training on and provide them as a resource > for faculty when they're not in use. Besides a screw up on the keyboards > when we ordered I don't think we've had cause to talk to Tangent since we > bought them. I personally put a SCSI scanner, CD-ROM and CD-ROM writer > into one with little hassle. The cases are fairly spacious and easy to > open. > > Robert Minato here works with them more than I so might add some comments. > > - Mike > > On Fri, 8 May 1998, Marianne Colgrove wrote: > > > I just had an interesting meeting with our Tangent representative. They sell > > Windows systems to government and higher education. Does anyone have any > > experience, good or bad, with Tangent? > > > > Thanks, > > Marianne > > mcolgrove@reed.edu > > > > From ingerman at lclark.edu Sat May 9 14:28:33 1998 From: ingerman at lclark.edu (Bret Ingerman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: And while I'm at it... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We use Datatel. Our staffing is: 1 manager of Information Systems 1 operations mananger 1 programmer 1 programmer/analyst 1 operational analyst Some of these people also do non-colleague stuff. --Bret At 10:50 AM -0700 5/6/98, Jeb Weisman wrote: >Simple questions. If you use Banner or Datatel, how many dedicated >full-time staff support the product? And if FTE is different, what is that >number? > >For example, Pacific has 5 solely for this. > >1 Programmer, 1 Sys Admin., 1 Tech. Services, 1 Trainer/Consultant, 1 >Benefactor Mgr. > > >Then there are distributed responsibilities for querying, data entry, >etc., around the school. > >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | >| Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | >| University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | >| Services 97116 | >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ingerman at lclark.edu Sat May 9 14:42:13 1998 From: ingerman at lclark.edu (Bret Ingerman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Selling computers In-Reply-To: <35521897.2928E626@plu.edu> Message-ID: >Does your bookstore sell PCs? > The bookstore doesn't, but we do (IT). >If so, what brand? Apple and Dell > >What kind of success (or lack thereof) have your had with vendor >discounts, sales, service, support? Changes all the time, but I still think it is a worthwhile service. > >Can you provide the name of your bookstore contact? You can contact me or Miranda Carney-Morris (mccm@lclark.edu) --Bret From weisman at pacificu.edu Tue May 12 08:40:24 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Apple Message-ID: OK, I've tallied all the votes and there's a small but clear majority for Friday, July 10th. So Unless something nuclear has happened for you all in the last two weeks, that's the date (I just need to confirm with Apple). Can I get a rough head count of how many would be coming? Thanks gang. -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jjmiller at lclark.edu Tue May 12 08:52:36 1998 From: jjmiller at lclark.edu (Jeris Miller) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Apple In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Jeb -- I will be attending on July 10th. Much thanks for your efforts. :-Jeris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeris J. Miller Lewis & Clark College Senior Technical Consultant Academic Technologies Internet: jjmiller@lclark.edu Info. Tech. Division Web Address: Voice: (503) 768-7221 http://www.lclark.edu/~infotech Fax: (503)768-7228 "If it works, it's obsolete." Understanding Media, p.12. -- Marshall McLuhan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Tue, 12 May 1998, Jeb Weisman wrote: > OK, I've tallied all the votes and there's a small but clear majority for > Friday, July 10th. So Unless something nuclear has happened for you all > in the last two weeks, that's the date (I just need to confirm with > Apple). > > Can I get a rough head count of how many would be coming? > > Thanks gang. > > -Jeb > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | > | Services 97116 | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > From cqualey at linfield.edu Tue May 12 09:04:54 1998 From: cqualey at linfield.edu (Carol Qualey) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Apple In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I will be attending Summer Camp July 10. Thanks for your efforts, Jeb, ---------------------- Carol Qualey Software Support, Linfield College 900 SE Baker, McMinnville, OR 97128 Email: cqualey@linfield.edu Phone: (503)434-2559 From ingerman at lclark.edu Tue May 12 09:49:43 1998 From: ingerman at lclark.edu (Bret Ingerman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Apple In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jeb: I would think 4-8 will come from LC. --Bret At 8:50 AM -0700 5/12/98, Jeb Weisman wrote: >OK, I've tallied all the votes and there's a small but clear majority for >Friday, July 10th. So Unless something nuclear has happened for you all >in the last two weeks, that's the date (I just need to confirm with >Apple). > >Can I get a rough head count of how many would be coming? > >Thanks gang. > >-Jeb > >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | >| Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | >| University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | >| Services 97116 | >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From PietrasP at evergreen.edu Tue May 12 10:00:18 1998 From: PietrasP at evergreen.edu (Pietras, Pete) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Apple Message-ID: Count me in. I'll be there. I think there will be about 4 from Evergreen. Julian (aka Pete) > At 8:50 AM -0700 5/12/98, Jeb Weisman wrote: > >OK, I've tallied all the votes and there's a small but clear majority > for > >Friday, July 10th. So Unless something nuclear has happened for you > all > >in the last two weeks, that's the date (I just need to confirm with > >Apple). > > > >Can I get a rough head count of how many would be coming? > > > >Thanks gang. > > > >-Jeb > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > >| Jeb Weisman Pacific University > weisman@pacificu.edu | > >| Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) > | > >| University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) > | > >| Services 97116 > | > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > > > From weisman at pacificu.edu Wed May 13 12:53:31 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: New Admit Letter Message-ID: here's the New Admit Letter. I've been crawling through some stuff here so I apologize for my tardiness. It's date is old and it is long (on purpose).... -Jeb 13 April 1998 Dear : University Information Services (UIS) would like to congratulate you on your admission to Pacific. UIS is responsible for almost every aspect of computing and data communications for students, faculty, and staff. We would like to take this opportunity to make you aware of a few of our technology resources and some information about personal computers. In this technological era, your classes may require you to not only type your papers, but to participate in group discussions via e-mail, explore the World Wide Web, and develop projects and presentations using computer and multimedia resources -- skills which will prove invaluable to you as a student and in your future careers. Our professors often require course work involving computer technology in order to support the linkage between abstract information and experience. For this reason we strongly recommend that all incoming students have their own personal computers. Pacific supports Apple Macintosh and PC-compatible computers on our campus network. It is our experience that PC-compatibles take a bit more work to effectively integrate into an academic network. In order to more readily and efficiently integrate your personal computer into the University, it is our recommendation that you consider making any new computer purchase either an Apple Power Macintosh or a Dell PC-compatible desktop or laptop system. Whether you bring a computer from home or purchase one from our campus Computer Store, there are some things that you should know before making a purchase decision: Even if you do not have a computer, you still have access to lab facilities available throughout the University, including a 24-hour open-access lab in our University Center, Harvey Scott Memorial Library, and a multimedia lab. Every student in the residence halls is able and encouraged to connect his or her computer directly to the University network. Students off-campus can access the network using a modem through our dial-in system. Students who do not have their own computers can access their e-mail, the World Wide Web, and other network and Internet services by using one of the computer lab or library machines. Macintosh systems are less complicated to network than PC-compatible systems. With this in mind, Pacific has created a PC standard based upon Dell Computer products. The Computer Store sells Dell PC-compatible systems pre-configured for easy installation. Although we do not require you to purchase a computer from the university, please be aware that if you purchase a PC-compatible system elsewhere, we cannot guarantee that it will network properly and do to limited resources we will only be able to provide limited support. To help network your PC-compatible system, we recommend a 3COM 10BaseT Ethernet adapter with a TCP/IP network driver that will work with your operating system software. Whether you are considering purchasing a computer or bringing a computer from home, we recommend a system with the following minimum basic hardware standards: 32 megabytes (MB) of RAM, 3 gigabyte (GB) hard disk, a 16x CD-ROM drive, and a processor speed of at least 200MHz. If you are purchasing a PC-compatible system, we recommend a Pentium, Pentium II, Pentium w/MMX, or Pentium Pro Processor and if you are purchasing an Apple Computer, we recommend any of the current Power Macintosh PowerPC models. Students living in the residence halls do not need a modem. The University uses a variety of productivity and communication software tools. The majority of faculty and staff use Microsoft Word, Excel, and Claris FileMaker Pro. Internet software for e-mail, browsing the World Wide Web, and transferring files is provided without charge by the University. Pacific can provide a unique opportunity to you in regards to computer purchasing. The relationships we have cultivated with Apple Computer, Dell Computer, and a variety of software vendors allow us to extend to you and to all members of the Pacific University community special higher education discounts through our Computer Store. In contrast to retail pricing, we receive, on average, price breaks from Apple of $50-$400 on most systems and special bundle pricing on the robust Optiplex line from Dell. In addition, these relationships allow us to provide a high level of warranty support. We have enclosed current pricing information. Neither Apple nor Dell have finalized their Back-To-School prices and configurations. Nonetheless we know this is the time you begin to think about computer needs and we hope the information provided will give you a sense of our likely discounts. In late June or early July, we will be sending out the official Back-To-School Sale materials as well as detailed information regarding Information Services, available facilities, most frequently asked questions, and opportunities to work with our staff. Because we do not require you to purchase a computer, Financial Aid is not available for computer purchases; however, there is financing available for Apple Computers through the Apple Loan Program. If this is something of interest to you, you can receive more detailed information by calling Apple at 1-800-277-5356. If you are interested in investigating finance alternatives for Dell purchases, please contact either of us directly. Later this summer, you will receive another packet of information from us with more details and information about computing and information services. In the meantime, should you have any questions or concerns about computer purchases, please feel free to give us a call at (503) 359-2244 or contact us via e-mail at . Our regular Computer Store hours are: Monday - Friday, 9:00am - 5:00pm Pacific Time. If you would like to speak to either of us directly, we welcome your call at the numbers and e-mail addresses below. We hope you have a wonderful summer and we look forward to welcoming you into the Pacific community this fall. Sincerely, Jeb Weisman Allison L. Batty Director of University User Support Services Information Services Coordinator 503-359-2944 503-359-2973 weisman@pacificu.edu battya1@pacificu.edu From worleyme at plu.edu Thu May 14 08:13:36 1998 From: worleyme at plu.edu (Margaret Worley) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: System messages in pop mail Message-ID: <355B0A20.C5C38C92@plu.edu> For those of you who use pop mail, how do you generate system messages? Do you send out e-mail to everyone? If so, is there something special about your message that would cause people to pay attention instead of deleting it? Thanks in advance for your help Margaret Worley Asst. Director, User Services/Academic Support Computing and Telecommunication Services Pacific Lutheran University From aldrich at ups.edu Thu May 14 12:33:02 1998 From: aldrich at ups.edu (Tom Aldrich) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: System messages in pop mail Message-ID: Margaret, We build lists of all the email address for all campus, students, faculty, faculty and staff. We are trying to limit mail to all to messages coming from cabinet-level positions or with cabinet-level support - that and necessary system messages. Others are encouraged to post to a campus announcements conference on webboard. You can use a priority field in eudora, but if it's coming from a general address like announcements@blah.blah.edu if they don't want to read it the priority won't matter. Good subject lines are useful. Tom At 9:36 AM 5/14/98, Margaret Worley wrote: >For those of you who use pop mail, how do you generate system messages? > >Do you send out e-mail to everyone? If so, is there something special >about your message that would cause people to pay attention instead of >deleting it? > >Thanks in advance for your help > >Margaret Worley >Asst. Director, User Services/Academic Support >Computing and Telecommunication Services >Pacific Lutheran University From weisman at pacificu.edu Tue May 19 11:20:17 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: The LETTER Message-ID: Hi gang, I'm hearing through the grape vine and from one e-mail that some of you found the entering students letter helpful in one form or another. I was wondering if those of you who used it or some derivation could share that with me/us (the content, that is). -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu Tue May 19 13:05:50 1998 From: Marianne.Colgrove at directory.reed.edu (Marianne Colgrove) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: The LETTER Message-ID: <5669740@isis.reed.edu> Here's a letter we're just sending out today. If anyone wants the Q&A (two pages long), let me know and I'll send that directly. Marianne Dear New Student and Parents, Congratulations on your decision to attend Reed! I'm sure you have many questions about what you'll be encountering as you head off to college next fall. The attached Q&A About Computing at Reed answers the most common questions we receive about our computing environment and recommended student computer systems. Reed is recognized as a national leader in liberal arts computing for the innovative ways it incorporates technology in the curriculum. Computers are viewed as a valuable tool for teaching, learning and scholarly work. Nearly all of the Reed faculty use computers on a regular basis and more than half incorporate technology into their courses. As personal computers become more powerful and an increasing number of computer-based resources become available, even more faculty are incorporating computers into their courses. Please take a moment to read through the following materials about computing at Reed. If you still have questions, you can contact me directly at the phone number or email address shown below. Or, pay a visit to either of the following websites: Computing information http://web.reed.edu/resources/cis Computer purchase info http://web.reed.edu/resources/cis/chs/resale Now that we've given you some information about computing at Reed, we'd like to get some information back from you. The attached survey will help us better understand your computing needs for the coming year. You can FAX or mail the survey back to us, or go to the website http://database.reed.edu/chs/survey.qry and complete the survey there. Meanwhile, we hope you have a happy graduation and enjoy a good summer before you embark on your college adventure. See you in August! Marianne Colgrove Associate Director 503/777-7792 (voice) 503/777-7778 (fax) mcolgrove@reed.edu PS. In June we'll be sending additional information with specific computer recommendations and prices -- check your Orientation packet when it arrives! From weisman at pacificu.edu Fri May 22 08:46:42 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Housing for Summer Camp Message-ID: Hi Gang. I know the formal invitation from Apple hasn't gone out yet, but the Summer Camp for July 10th isn't far away. I mentioned housing in my earlier missive, but I thought I'd get a count from thos ewho are plannign on going so, 1) There are basically two places to stay right here in scenic Forst Grove. One is a very civilized TraveLodge within walking distance of campus. I'd be glad to provide the phone number for resrevations there. 2) The ubiquitous On-Campus housing. Plan on "Doubles". For this I do need a head count. I know Whitman is in for 6 people (3 doubles). Anybody else need a campus roof and for how long? (Presumably Thursday night and probably Friday night?) Sooner I get this info, the sooner I can make arrangements. -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From weisman at pacificu.edu Fri May 22 11:58:48 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Cool Tools Message-ID: Hi folks. I've just been talking with Enrique from Apple. In addition to the usual odds and ends, his crew would like to burn a CD-ROM that everyone could leave the meeting with. The general concept would be white papers, actually software applications, useful links, whatever. So I guess the questions is, if someone was going to give you somthing like this, what kinds of solutions oriented info/tools/stuff would be helpful. Feel free to mention products, but gteneral categories will also suffice. We do neet to get this info fairly quickly so they can research and build the CD in time for the 10th. -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bnelson at willamette.edu Tue May 26 11:33:04 1998 From: bnelson at willamette.edu (Bill Nelson) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Cool Tools In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I just got a request from faculty for Apple Java development tools... BN _____________________________________________________________________ Bill Nelson Tokyo International University of America P O Box 14040 Salem, OR, USA 97309 bnelson@willamette.edu On Fri, 22 May 1998, Jeb Weisman wrote: > Hi folks. > > I've just been talking with Enrique from Apple. In addition to the usual > odds and ends, his crew would like to burn a CD-ROM that everyone could > leave the meeting with. The general concept would be white papers, > actually software applications, useful links, whatever. > > So I guess the questions is, if someone was going to give you somthing > like this, what kinds of solutions oriented info/tools/stuff would be > helpful. Feel free to mention products, but gteneral categories will > also suffice. > > We do neet to get this info fairly quickly so they can research and build > the CD in time for the 10th. > > -Jeb > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | > | Services 97116 | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > From PietrasP at evergreen.edu Fri May 29 15:41:14 1998 From: PietrasP at evergreen.edu (Pietras, Pete) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Cool Tools Message-ID: Hi Jeb, here are a few ideas: Java Development tools for the Mac Web based curricular development tools Documents and case studies on usage of Foreign language characters/fonts on the Mac Documentation on usage of MS Office 98 for Mac -- there just isn't anything now Collaboratory tools A calendar maker for printing out schedules of labs and classrooms using a month or quarter at a glance format (without printing on 2'x3' paper!). Ever try to squeeze seven lab scheulde times into one day's block on a calendar? > ---------- > From: Jeb Weisman > Reply To: nw-heat@willamette.org > Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 12:23 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Cool Tools > > Hi folks. > > I've just been talking with Enrique from Apple. In addition to the > usual > odds and ends, his crew would like to burn a CD-ROM that everyone > could > leave the meeting with. The general concept would be white papers, > actually software applications, useful links, whatever. > > So I guess the questions is, if someone was going to give you somthing > like this, what kinds of solutions oriented info/tools/stuff would be > helpful. Feel free to mention products, but gteneral categories will > also suffice. > > We do neet to get this info fairly quickly so they can research and > build > the CD in time for the 10th. > > -Jeb > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > --+ > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University > weisman@pacificu.edu | > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) > | > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) > | > | Services 97116 > | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > --+ > From weisman at pacificu.edu Fri May 29 17:06:05 1998 From: weisman at pacificu.edu (Jeb Weisman) Date: Thu Oct 5 10:00:20 2006 Subject: Cool Tools In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Got it. -Jeb +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeb Weisman Pacific University weisman@pacificu.edu | | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) | | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) | | Services 97116 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Fri, 29 May 1998, Pietras, Pete wrote: > Hi Jeb, > > here are a few ideas: > > Java Development tools for the Mac > > Web based curricular development tools > > Documents and case studies on usage of Foreign language > characters/fonts on the Mac > > Documentation on usage of MS Office 98 for Mac -- there just isn't > anything now > > Collaboratory tools > > A calendar maker for printing out schedules of labs and classrooms using > a month or quarter at a glance format (without printing on 2'x3' > paper!). Ever try to squeeze seven lab scheulde times into one day's > block on a calendar? > > > > > ---------- > > From: Jeb Weisman > > Reply To: nw-heat@willamette.org > > Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 12:23 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Cool Tools > > > > Hi folks. > > > > I've just been talking with Enrique from Apple. In addition to the > > usual > > odds and ends, his crew would like to burn a CD-ROM that everyone > > could > > leave the meeting with. The general concept would be white papers, > > actually software applications, useful links, whatever. > > > > So I guess the questions is, if someone was going to give you somthing > > like this, what kinds of solutions oriented info/tools/stuff would be > > helpful. Feel free to mention products, but gteneral categories will > > also suffice. > > > > We do neet to get this info fairly quickly so they can research and > > build > > the CD in time for the 10th. > > > > -Jeb > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --+ > > | Jeb Weisman Pacific University > > weisman@pacificu.edu | > > | Director 2043 College Way (503)359-2944 (vox) > > | > > | University Information Forest Grove, OR (503)359-3162 (fax) > > | > > | Services 97116 > > | > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --+ > > >